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Greg Mayman wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason: RJT> I never could figure out why the C64 had that key on it. :-) GM> I must look at my mates C64 to see which key you mean... The one with the pound symbol on it... GM> I have been cleaning out my shed and stripping down a pile of GM> non-working computers. A lot of the early ones had little GM> metal cased units, about 3/4" x 7/16", that I suspect are GM> crystal oscillators. Most of these are made by FOX, and one GM> typical one is labelled GM> F1145 8712 GM> 14.318180 MHZ GM> FOX JAPAN GM> There is indeed one not made by FOX, labelled GM> SARONIX 87M GM> XTAL OSC 15 GM> 48.0000MHZ GM> NTC070C GM> I guess that is pretty definite. GM> They all have four pins, one near each corner, and I suppose they GM> operate from the 5v rail. Since they are still on the board, I GM> should be able to identify the +5v and 0v pins. One of the other GM> pins would be the output, but the fourth one could be almost GM> anything. GM> Does anyone in this echo know anything about these units? I have a bunch of those around as well. I don't remember which pin is the output, and I don't think the other pin is connected. But yeah, they run off the +5v supply. In a conversation recently with somebody they mention that these draw a bit more power than using a crystal directly, which he considered to be a disadvantage in some applications. Those modules are pretty common, I think when the video card in this box started flaking out on me I put a different one in there that has at least 3 of them on it. Made my reception on the little tv that's in here get significantly worse. That 14.311318 MHz figure is pretty common. It was used in the c64, and also in the original IBM PC/XT class machines -- that's where that "4.77 MHz" came from, dividing it by 3. Divide it by 4 and you get the 3.58 MHz colorburst frequency. I have no oscillator modules for that frequency but have a whole bunch of crystals... ---* Origin: TANSTAAFL BBS 717-838-8539 (1:270/615) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 @PATH: 270/615 150/220 3613/1275 123/500 106/2000 633/267 |
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