Ok go outside today and observe your pond ...Do you see color fluctuations in 
breeding males...Do you see fish at all If you see them then a heron, bass or 
Osprey can also see them and the odds of its survival just went down a 
bit....Tell me what behaviors the male and female used as antecedents to 
spawning...tell me what are the shiners feeding on ! ANyhow you should get my 
point the aquarium is the place to observe such things....
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