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echo: educator
to: MATT SMITH
from: DAN TRIPLETT
date: 1996-06-14 22:47:00
subject: Re: Class Size Over-Rated

MS>DT> I think you would all agree that when it comes to class size,
MS>DT> there  is 
MS>DT> certainly a big difference between 60 college freshmen, 60 high 
MS>DT> school 
MS>DT> freshmen, 60 middle school 6th graders, and 60 kindergartners in
MS>DT> one  classroom.  Class size is a factor the lower we go in the
MS>DT> grade  levels.
MS> 
MS>    I'd disagree.
MS>    Much of elementary-school material, other than math, is so
MS>_repetitive_  it doesn't matter if there are class sizes of 60...but
MS>try teaching freshmen  college math to a class of 60 of whom 30
MS>missed key parts of a _sequential_  subject in K-12.
Well Matt, I have taught in an elementary school for many years and what 
you say is not correct.  It matters a great deal how many students are 
in an elementary class.  Over 30 students is nearly impossible.  One-on-
one help is not available in a class that size.  You say that there is 
"so much repetitive" teaching???   Explain this more.  It sounds as if 
you have NEVER been in a classroom except as a student.  What are your 
credentials?  
I'd like to find those classrooms of 60 elementary students that you 
describe.  They don't exist.  And the reason they don't exist is because 
the very idea of a class that size is ludicrous.  And your premise for 
why this could be so is even more ridiculous .  Educational research 
paints a far different picture:  Class size of about 18 is ideal.  
Student achievement bears this out as fact.  So much for your opinion.
Really......dt  
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