RD>> Richard it is more prevelant on that band than amateur bands I am
 RD>> active on. We do have a local bucket-mouth (constant talker,never goes
 RD>> QRT) who does draw this type of attention,but he is a natural target
 RD>> for any one with an axe to grind or a beef by his actions on-air.
 RT> Sorry to hear that the "CB mentality" can also be found on the ham bands
 RT> too, in your locality.  Hope you can see why I was (perhaps a bit too)
 RT> quick to try and stamp on this spectrum discrimination.  It only serves
 RT> to divide (and rule) spectrum users.  You, of course have no such 
interest
 No problem Richard.
 I started out myself playing about on cb before I got sick of it and the 
garbage on it,and moved to amateur radio for the fun of the radio.
 Many of the tricks and antenna ideas I tried on 11m I now do on 2m,6m, and 
HF.
 RD>> We have a small dedicated group here in Ottawa who -are- out to get
 RD>> some of our local smart-asses for the jamming.
 RT> There's no excuse for jamming.  However some hams have made a rod for 
their
 RT> own and colleagues' backs by their unwelcome huffy attitude -- filing
 RT> regulatory complaints for the slightest operative misdemeanours,
 RT> for example
 Jamming has no purpose other than to make those jammed angry and vengeful.
 Some jammer `victims' have even gone so far as to offer "bounties" for any 
info on the jammer attacking them. (bounties being cash for the address/name)
 Filing regulatory complaints may be simple in the UK but is rarely done here 
at all. (guess were to nice for our own good)
 Normal procedure is to trakc the jamming to the source and give them the 
chance to quit or be publicly ID'd if they hold a valid ticket.
 IF they are a pirate station,the Canadian department (known now as Industry 
Canada) governing amateur radio is notified.
 If that doesn't stop it,it usually ends with a latenight `antenna sacrifice' 
of the offending person.
 RD>> Did you see the jammer posting I sent out before Christmas Richard?
 RD>> If not I can send you a copy.
 RT> Yes, and it's kept for future reference.  It's rumoured that
 RT> the "whistler" did have some powerful allies.  Hence not being caught 
even
 RT> tho being sighted parked at the Crystal Palace mast base
 If he was seen parked then SOMEONE has his license tag.
 Maybe a little public ridicule of his junk car is in order on the local 
repeater he so frequently jams!
 IF they like to use the same place every time maybe a "meeting" of a few of 
his or her fellow operators could be arranged to take place in that lot at 
the same time they jam.
 Bet the jamming stops very fast when several witnesses are willing to appear 
in front of a local investigative body and give evidence.
 RD>> channels of am / ssb only) Would you want to try and use a band that
 RD>> has a DJ-want-to-be transmitting music on any channel they feel like
 RD>> in the band for 5 to 10 hours a day?
 RT> I'm sure that your DJ-wanna-be isn't on all 40 channels simultaneously.
 RT> If so, then his synth needs some attention
 He tries to be. Any channel that is active is jammed.
 Fortunately he does NOT have any amateur radio gear or he would have scrap 
by now if he dared try his games there.
 RD>> the input frequency. This also seemed to have the benefit of chasing
 RD>> off one of the local smarties as he/she/it quit their antics cold when
 RD>> they realized someone was monitoring the input frequency.
 RT> Yes, fear of capture seems to be the most effective strategy.
 RT> Vigilante-ism can quite often backfire providing its own closed loop of
 RT> justification for retaliation, often where there was no justification 
or
 RT> the jammers' actions in the first place
 Many jammers that are caught turn out to be amateurs everyone knows and are 
very active in the local clubs.
 The number one reason for their stupidity is they are --BORED--.
 The number two reason is they want to get the local bucket mouth off the 
ir.
 Makes you wonder sometimes..
 RD>> BTW can UK amateurs have a full-duplex repeater system with seperate
 RD>> inputs and outputs on 2 bands or more?
 RT> Nowadays I'm not QSX regularly.  So a G or M on the side will
 RT> have to answer this.  But when I was, preferred HF CW using classic
 RT> militiary kit (19 and 38 sets, CNY12s etc - remember them? :)  Finished 
by
 RT> building up a collection of spy transceivers.  Worked a J3 from UK with
 RT> one:  6F6 in the final into a long wire.  Honest!
 Ok. Will see if anyone has the duplex answer in my next poll for mail.
 I've seen #19 sets here,but they want to much cash for them second-hand.
 #38 sets I have never seen.
 Smallest set I saw was a mini spy transmitter running on a small section of
the 80m band from 3500 to 3700 at about 5-7w cw.
 It was supposed to have been used by the OSS and Resistance groups in Europe
to talk back the England.
 Too bad I didn't have the cash at the time or I would have grabbed it for 
some
QRP cw fun.
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