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to: John Beamish
from: Mike N.
date: 2006-07-20 10:54:00
subject: Re: OpenDNS - a proposed alternative

From: Mike N. 

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:15:13 -0400, "John Beamish"
 wrote:

>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/18/opendns-wants-to-watch-the-web-for-you
>
>OpenDNS is a new start up that wants users to redirect web traffic through
>its DNS nameservers, where an unusually large cache and an aggregated list
>of sites deemed guilty of phishing will make our web surfing faster and
>safer. It’s free and as simple as changing your DNS address from your ISP
>and to OpenDNS, but a number of serious concerns about the service have
>already been raised.

   Nearly all the criticism has no merit.

  SiteAdvisor - a completely different service.   It makes no attempt to
identify phishing sites.  OpenDNS could establish links from CastleCops,
SpamCop, etc to get a hot list of phishing URLs.   Although admittedly,
phishers could scale this to the level of Spam - 10,000 domains at a spam
run spread over a million trojan'ed hosts.

  Some variation of 'it corrupts the DNS space'.   True, but if you know
enough to know why it corrupts the DNS space, you don't need it.   Useage
is voluntary, which makes it OK.

   'The person who needs to use it doesn't know what DNS is'.   True, and
OpenDNS will reach critical mass only if assigned by ISPs to their users.
The user shouldn't need to be aware of it.

  'OpenDNS won't be much faster.'   Here is one area where everyone is
short on facts.  Normally, the ISP with a well-run DNS server will always
be faster because there are fewer hops to reach the DNS.   However, there
are scattered reports of slow DNS servers on some cable ISPs.    It's not
easy to measure the effects of the DNS server on web browsing by watching
the browser status bar because of all the levels of caching involved. The
only way to characterize DNS is to compare DNS servers directly under a
variety of conditions and over a span of time.   Hopefully OpenDNS will do
this because it's a good sales tool if they're really faster.

   My opinion: a centralized DNS server is a tempting Pharming target.
Imagine getting www.bankofamerica.com to point to your Phishing server.
That is the biggest danger.    But OpenDNS servers won't be any more
vulnerable to Pharming than a megaprovider such as Comcast / Verizon /
Earthlink etc, assuming that both are running the latest version of DNS and
properly secured.

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