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to: Shannon Talley
from: Michiel van der Vlist
date: 2006-09-25 16:14:00
subject: Age old debating rick...

hello Shannon.

24 Sep 06 19:05, you wrote to me:

 ST> Hello Michiel,

 >> Shannon, there *is* no such thing as a "licensed counselor" here.

 ST> A play on your language.  Licensed by other words over there still
 ST> translates to a license over here.

Whatever it translates in does not exist here. There is no officially
recognised equivalent here of what you call a "licensed
counseler".

 ST> However, if I am mistaken (I do admit that I don't live over there and
 ST> aren't that familiar with your legal network and quals

So much is obvious. Just as that you do not know much about our medical
system either. Over here only a qualified MD with a supplementary
quaLification in psychiatry is qualified to diagnose a mental health
problem. Period.

Only institutions with authority vested in them by the state may issue
those qualifications. That means any medical qualifications from abroad are
null and void. Simple.

 ST> then I am most certainly over qualified to provide assistance to you.

See above. Your qualifications mean nothing here.

 ST> However, the catholic church training program provides them a license
 ST> that is legal and respected to their organization regardless of the
 ST> country they work in.

See above. Licenses issued on behalf of the church are null and void here.

 ST> Have you called a clergy yet to see what kind of qualifications they
 ST> have?

Trick #35. Send the opponent on an errand.

Give it up man, nobody is buying your "you have a mental problem get
help" ploy. Everone can see that you are just trying to discredit me.
It won't work, give it up.

 >> IOW, you can't back it up. Thought so. If you did the trouble to
 >> research the figures you would find that drug addiction per capita
 >> is higher in the USA than in The Netherlands. Sex industry? Yaeh
 >> right, The USA is the largest producer of porn movies in the world.

 ST> I've been to your country Michiel,

Yeah an x day tour including a ride through the canals of Amsterdam. You
think you are the expert on my country now?

 ST> and I believe that your country fudges the figures provide the world a
 ST> different impression

Beliefs do not make facts. Back it up or shut up.

As for sex industry, of course there is protitution here. There is
prostitution *everywhere*. But to see it in Amsterdam you have to go
looking for it. You have to go to these special places that you do not
normally run into. So if you saw "sex industry", I wonder what
you were doing in these places in the first place. A bit counseling? ;-)

 ST> Let me remind you that you have 'not' been over here....

I do not have to have been there to know that whatever qualifications you
claim to have are null and void here.

 ST> You are MORE than welcome to come for a visit!  I have a very nice
 ST> spare bedroom with which you are welcome to use as you visit the
 ST> Hampton Roads area.

Thanks, but no thanks. You know very well that I do not accept invitations
to come to the US.

 ST> However, Bjorn's "agenda" is also very clear, and you can read more
 ST> about his agenda by going to www.fidotel.com/fidonews

That diatribe tells us more about *your* agenda than Bj”rn's.


Michiel

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