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to: ROBERT BASHE
from: ALEXANDER KORYAGIN
date: 2017-06-09 11:05:00
subject: Re: The lesser of two evi

Hi, Robert Bashe!
I read your message from 08.06.2017 08:33

  ak>> Putin did nothing to capture Crimea -- Crimea actually suddenly
  ak>> fell on his head. However Putin prevented bloodshed on the
  ak>> peninsular, according Dombass scenario.

  RB> I can well remember how soldiers - without markings - suddenly
  RB> appeared in Crimea, some of them even unarmed. The Kremlin claimed
  RB> to know nothing about that. Later, there were mnore soldiers, this
  RB> time armed, and in the end it turned out they were Russian
  RB> soldiers, securing the airport and roads.

Some Russian soldiers from the legal Sevastopol's military base had 
blocked the possibility of sending Ukrainian troops into Crimea to crush 
the uprising of the Russian people. They prevented a big bloodshed. The 
uprising itself, against the new Kiev's authority,  had been initiated 
by the Russian Crimean citizens themselves, and the overwhelming 
majority of the Crimean people supported it.

You are absolutely wrong when you think and shed crocodile tears about 
the poor Crimean people who are allegedly oppressed by the Russian 
troops now and then. It is a deceitful propaganda from Kiev. The only 
way to see the truth is to go to the Crimea and see it with own eyes.

  RB> Then Russia held a "referendum", with the Russians stationed in
  RB> Crimea doubtless eligible to vote. Big surprise: the Russians won.

More than 90 percent of the Crimea population took part into the 
referendum, there were many observers. It is impossible to hold secret 
ballot under force. The "green men" just made it possible to hold the 
referendum by preventing the Ukrainian troops from getting into Crimea 
to suppress the uprising.

  RB> Then "help convois" were sent to eastern Ukraine by the Kremlin.

You are a strange man. The eastern parts of the Ukraine (that are under 
control of the Russian rebels) are under a tough blockade. If Russia 
becomes impassable sea for them -- it will like the blockade of 
Leningrad in WW2, when people die from hunger. Do you like the Domabass 
Russians to die from hunger? In any case, Russia cannot admit it, and 
Russia sent and sending food convoys into the areas under the blockade.

  RB> Naturally no inspection of the contents.

It is a lie. Ukrainian customs officers check them.

  RB> And suddenly there was an
  RB> uprising. A civilian jet was shot down - but "naturally" by the
  RB> Ukranians... at first the Kremlin claimed no involvement whatever,
  RB> but then admitted the weaponry used was theirs, but used by the
  RB> Ukranians.

That rockets are like Russian AK-47 - they could be found on both sides, 
taking into account that these sides were a whole thing, before the USSR 
dissolution.

  RB> Unfortunately, it turned out that the weaponry was not
  RB> simple to use, and the Ukranians were not trained in it's use.

Ukraine, BTW, has a poor crime statistic on this account. Read this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/1359353/Ukraine-admits
-it-shot-down-Russian-airliner.html
or
https://goo.gl/YwISfU

  RB> Don't tell me the Kremlin had nothing to so with that, or with the
  RB> fighting in eastern Ukraine. It just won't wash.

It is ridiculous to think that that Russia might allow any nation to 
kill Russians. Because they resisted forgetting their roots.

The situation in Ukraine is like situation in Belgium. Suppose, the 
Fleming start to oppress the French population forcing them to be the 
Fleming. Of course the French speaking population has all right for 
resistance. And in the case of bloodshed France certainly will not stay 
aside.

Bye, Robert!
Alexander Koryagin
fido7.fidonews 2017
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