> I asked some very good and honest questions about that last issue of
 > Fidonews, and I was attacked by Michiel.

No you didnt.  You were fishing.


 > > Did it ever occur to you Shannon, that he may just be reacting to the
 > > way that YOU act in here?  You are no different then he.  You too show
 >
 > In this echo? I've been very accomodating with Michiel.

In Fido.

 > > a hate on for Europeans, at least in this echo.  Also, if people do
 >
 > I have never shown this "hate" for Europeans, and I am
calling you out Joe.
 >
 > //You said it, now PROVE it.//

The proof is in the messages you write.  Read them carefully and you
will notice a thread.  The same thread that you accuse Michiel of
having.  I could ask you as well, prove that Michiel has stated that
he hates Americans.  He has never done so.

 > You'll find quite the opposite. I've traveled extensively around Europe, and
 > abroad.  I've had very nice things to say about 'nearly' everywhere.

No you havent.  You run down my birth country every chance you get.
All based on a superficial idea.  You see the worst of a country and
the best of a country, as a visitor.  Using the same paramaters I
could say the same thing of your country.  I have been coming there
twice a year for a good 20 years.  I have seen good and bad, and if I
ignore the good, then indeed I could say that your country has gone to
the dogs.  That seems to be what you are doing.

 > > refrain from using religious epitaphs with them, but you continute to
 >
 > Never used any religious epitaphs Joe.  Can you point them out?  What you
 > call "religious epitaphs" Joe was when "I"
pointed out to Michiel that he
 > can seek anger mgt counseling from clergy -- who are trained councilors
 > who -- when asked (specifically the Catholics) will refrain from preaching
 > during their counseling.  It's usually free (donations) for those who can't
 > afford a psychologist.  How that turns into a "religious
epitaph" is really
 > beyond my comprehension Joe....  Your reply is really just
"par" for the
 > course......

And I expected this very answer from you.  You are predictable.  The
seeking advice from a Clergy, was just one minor example.  You have
told him to seek God, and to pray , and that you will pray for him,
even when he has asked you to not say or do stuff like that.  That IS
pushing religion.  As Roy has said, it has no place in general echos.
Leave it to relious echos.

Having said that, I am NOT an athiest, but I still dont like it when
you do that sort of thing to people who have asked you not to.

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