| TIP: Click on subject to list as thread! | ANSI |
| echo: | |
|---|---|
| to: | |
| from: | |
| date: | |
| subject: | Re: My Presidential Pick for 2006 |
Vorlonagent wrote: >Americans seem to have some hangup about >homosexuality. I have no idea why. That's why >I touch on the behviour of gay advocates. I'm >looking for a reason that makes sense. We >have the "ewwww" factor of not wanting to >picture it and we have the confrontational >manner of some gay activists. I realise you're only postulating this as one possible contributing factor, but nonetheless the evidence in favour of it is pretty scant given that the degree of presence of "gay activists" and the like correlates negatively, rather than positively, with the degree of discrimination towards non-heterosexual persons in a country or society. There aren't many activists in Saudi Arabia arguing that women and men should have the right to same-sex relationships, or that women should have the right to have premarital sex or multiple partners, or for that matter to stipulate a preference for a monogamous relationship that's equally binding on their husbands. There weren't many activists at all in Nazi Germany defending the rights of "homosexuals" (which presumably included bisexuals, transgendered persons, etc.) when this group was being murdered in concentration camps. IBM's Hollerith punch card system, in some ways a precursor to the computer, played a significant role in helping the Nazis commit genocide more efficiently. The categories used for processing people in concentration camps included Homosexual (3), Jew (8) and Gypsy (12). In liberal European countries today, where there's arguably the least degree of discrimination against sexual minorities, there are likely more activists in public view than pretty much anywhere else. So, not only are there instances where "homosexuals" have been persecuted severely without any activists having done anything to provoke it, but furthermore there seems to be more discrimination where there are less activists. As for why there's a certain degree of prejudice and discomfort around the issue of homosexuality in the US, I think one thing to remember is that this has been the case historically across Western countries but that it's improving as time goes by. It is perhaps improving a little less rapidly in the US than it is in some other Western countries, and I can think of two factors which may be playing a part in this. These two factors are likely related to each other as well. One factor is the Cold War and McCarthyism, which has increased the degree of conservative Christianity in the US. The other factor is that the US is the most powerful country in the world militarily speaking, and this may affect the psyche of some heterosexual men (*) in the US, as well as leading to a degree of resistance against the general pattern of liberalisation in Western countries. (*) It may affect the psyche of some women too, but this is a more complex matter. As we've advanced technologically, Western countries have undergone a general process of liberalisation. There are likely a number of factors involved here. One is that the feminist movement has evolved in part out of technological advancement, and may in fact be an almost inevitable consequence of such. When women gain more rights and the ability to work for money in the public sphere and have some political representation, this makes significant changes to the sexual psychology of a culture and contributes to further liberalisation in other areas (such as same-sex rights). Another factor is that technology itself changes the psychology of a culture through a number of processes, including that constant technological change opens up the potential for social change and diversification, and makes people less prone to cling to familiar social mores and conventions as a coping strategy. Since the time of the Enlightenment and the Founding Fathers, there has been a steady process of technological development in Western countries. Not all aspects of the relationship between technological advancement and social liberalisation are entirely clear, but the two do seem to be supported by each other. The US has been a little behind other Western countries in the last 50 years or so, and this is evident in other areas besides attitudes towards homosexuality - for example, the US still has the death penalty in some states whereas most other Western countries consider it primitive and barbaric. Technological advancement offers the potential of hope in the long term but also some potential pitfalls in the short term. One pitfall is that technology brings increased potential to pollute the environment when our society's laws and values have not yet caught up with the need to regulate this. Another pitfall is that advanced weapons may fall into the hands of people with less liberal views, like religious fundamentalists (as JMS referred to with the terrorist nuking of San Diego). The Drakh couldn't build a Shadow planetkiller but yet they were quite prepared to use one. In much the same way, a culture of religious fundamentalists could never invent a nuclear weapon because they lack the scientific framework necessary to understand how to create one, but yet they can still use such a weapon after it's been invented by other people with superior scientific knowledge. To get back to your query, there may of course be more to it, but I'd be surprised if the factors I've mentioned don't play at least some role in why there is a bit more prejudice towards homosexuality in the US than in many other Western countries. Matthew --- SBBSecho 2.12-Win32* Origin: Time Warp of the Future BBS - Home of League 10 (1:14/400) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 5030/786 @PATH: 14/400 261/38 123/500 379/1 633/267 |
|
| SOURCE: echomail via fidonet.ozzmosis.com | |
Email questions or comments to sysop@ipingthereforeiam.com
All parts of this website painstakingly hand-crafted in the U.S.A.!
IPTIA BBS/MUD/Terminal/Game Server List, © 2025 IPTIA Consulting™.