From: John Cuccia 

Marathon had processes for loosing the restrictions for users who were
themselves propeller heads.  All it took was their supervisor's approval.

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:41:26 -0400, "Gary Britt"
 wrote:

>This attitude (which is perfectly understandable from the point of view of
>the propeller head department) is why whenever I have been forced by
>circumstances into such an environment have TWO computers.  MY computer the
>one I do all my work on at the office that is setup the way *I* want and
>with the programs *I* use, and the company computer which I use as
>absolutely little as possible.  Usually just email, internet, and group
>scheduling on the company computer (if possible not even that).
>
>Gary
>
>"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
>news:6702c2p9n1dq6la6bd9f14dtm2einefvje{at}4ax.com...
>> As a former corporate IT dweeb I agree.
>>
>> Despite the whining, life got much easier when we locked down desktops
>> and implemented a software delivery system to prevent users from
>> running to Best Buy for a copy of whatever piece of software they
>> thought they needed on that day.
>>
>> Those machines belong to the corporation, not to the employees of that
>> corporation.
>>
>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:33:21 -0400, "Rich Gauszka"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>In this day and age with all the instances of identity theft from a
>>>corporate environment I'd tend to agree with John on the lockdown of PCs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
>>>news:44c0d58e{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> Yuh know ... I'm somewhat technically more competent
than most users
>>>>> but,
>>>>> frankly, in the corporate environment the rules change
and locking down
>>>>> corporate assets so that they work properly all the
time is the proper
>>>>> function of "the business" operations.  You
don't let fork lift truck
>>>>> operators perform modifications on fork lift trucks -
you bring in the
>>>>> appropriate technical expertise to do that.
>>>>
>>>> We're kind of small to be considered in that class.
>>>>
>>>> It's definitely a trade off I'll agree.  It costs money to
lock things
>>>> down like that, just like it costs money for me to keep
things running
>>>> as
>>>> is --  it all depends on one's situation which might be
cheaper in the
>>>> long run, and you have to keep in mind that user happiness
is important
>>>> too.  For my shop, it's definitely cheaper for me to react
than it would
>>>> be to be proactive, plus I get the bonus of the users
thinking they have
>>>> a
>>>> little bit of control of their own "stuff".
>>>>
>>>>>As long as the  functionality exists in windows to lock
it down in a
>>>>>corporate  environment, you are almost derelict in your
duty if you do
>>>>>not
>>>>>do that.
>>>>
>>>> Er, no.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "John Beamish" 
wrote in message
>>>> news:op.tc1g2ulzm6tn4t{at}dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com...
>>>>> Yuh know ... I'm somewhat technically more competent
than most users
>>>>> but,
>>>>> frankly, in the corporate environment the rules change
and locking down
>>>>> corporate assets so that they work properly all the
time is the proper
>>>>> function of "the business" operations.  You
don't let fork lift truck
>>>>> operators perform modifications on fork lift trucks -
you bring in the
>>>>> appropriate technical expertise to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ditto for PCs.  I'm at a rather large oil company
right now and their
>>>>> desktops are locked down as tightly as you could
possibly imagine.  And
>>>>> that hasn't stopped me from getting my job done.  As long as the
>>>>> functionality exists in windows to lock it down in a corporate
>>>>> environment, you are almost derelict in your duty if
you do not do
>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:11:02 -0400, Robert Comer
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, if the users would all go home or more
just continue to call in
>>>>>>> sick it would make life so much more enjoyable here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You got that right!!   I'm working on 2 PC's right
now that had
>>>>>> spyware
>>>>>> problems.  Sometimes I wish I wasn't so nice and
as policy locked down
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> desktops to the point that they couldn't do
anything personal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

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