Hello Vladimir.

18 Jul 06 10:04, you wrote to me:

 MV>> That is not what the ZCC decided. Sorry Vladimir, you have no
 MV>> other choice then to accept that.

 VD> I hope that next our proposal ZCC can decide as more truthful.

Sure. And I hope that the next stone I drop will make me famous by being
the one that falls up....

 MV>> But you are wrong. Routing mail was a necessity when sending mail
 MV>> directly was too expensive. The new technology of fido over IP
 MV>> has freed us from that. We can now send our mail directly without
 MV>> any additional cost. We are no longer at the mercy of hubs and
 MV>> hosts that play games with out mail.

 MV>> I send my mail as directly as possible. That is the new way.
 MV>> Routing mail is the old way.

 VD> Are you read unpassword incoming?

Of course. I accept and process raw *.PKT netmail from anyone. What point
is there in beinb in the nodelist if one only accepts netmail from a few
priviliged sources. That is like being listed in the phone book but only
accept calls from yur friends.

If you do not accept mail from at least every nodelisted system, you should
be listed as a private node or a point.

 VD> At any case easy send mail by establishing password link (by route)
 VD> with reliable official system (hub)

What if I do not want your hub to read the mail?

Besides, I do not have a password with your hub either. What if he does the
same? I can not have a password with every host and hub in FidoNet.

 VD> then direct to system without guarantee of reading unprotected
 VD> incoming by receiver.

If you only want secure inbound, become a point and accept only mail from yur boss.

 VD>>> Only. Points are free from all rights and obligations too.

 MV>> So what rights - other than the right to send and receive mail -
 MV>> does a sysop have?

 VD> Voting for example.

Where does it say that sysops have a *right* to vote?

Sysops do not have voting rights. In some nets and regions there are givben
the opportunity to vote, but that is all up to the net or region. The net
or region can extend the same to points. As has been done in some regions.
denmark f.e.

 MV>>>> E-mail only nodes should never have been allowed. They have the
 MV>>>> reachability of points and hence *should* be points.

 VD>>> Read nodelist or Ward's decisions!

 MV>> I know.

 VD>>> I agree with you - EON is nonsense, but now they exist...

 MV>> That is no reason to make more of these kind of mistakes.

 VD> But this was made...

Then learn from that and avoid making similar misatkes in future.

 MV>>>> And BTW, where *is* Anatoly? AFAIK he is certified ghost.

 VD>>> He was a sysop who work in Vietname. After his contract was
 VD>>> finish he return to Moscow.

 MV>> "Was". his node is off-line....

 VD> No - his node is working now. He control it by INTERNET.

So you say....

 MV>>>> Two plus two still does not equal five no matter how many
 MV>>>> support that theory...

 VD>>> Summary two parts of Uran-235 (at same kg each) and you get very
 VD>>> more bad things...

 MV>> Put together two masses of 0.5 kg each of U235 and you still end
 MV>> up with 1 kg of something... provided you included the mass
 MV>> equivalence of the released energy...

 VD> 0.5 kg is low, I wrote "same kgs" (I not remember precise number of
 VD> critical mass, but it more 10 kgs).

Are you a physicist?

 MV>> Anyway, your word games are unconvincing. 1+1=2, no matter what
 MV>> the outcome of the vote.

 VD> No. "clear mathematic" is only "theoretical"
science, in the real life
 VD> his results need re-working (re-thinking) before application.

Whatever. In real life one plus one equals two as well, no matter how many
word games you play.


Michiel

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