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echo: rberrypi
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from: DENNIS LEE BIEBER
date: 2018-04-23 11:51:00
subject: Re: Apologies where they

On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 13:56:01 GMT, Jan Panteltje 
declaimed the following:

>That 680X I never got into it,
>I still have a 68000 chip somewhere..
>
 How modern 

 I still have an Intel kit containing:

8080A processor
2102 RAM (8x)
1702 UV EPROM (4x)
8212 buffer/latch (3x) {meant to be used to capture shared address/data
lines, as part of the bus control}
8224 Clock generator
8205 1-of-8 decoder (meant to be used for chip selects)

which I supplemented with

8228 system controller chip (replaces the three 8212s)
2708 UV EPROM
2114 RAM? (2x)

Along with an S-100 format wire-wrap board.

>
>Also for a university course I did learn Pascal, all they did was in Pascal...
>It seems Pascal somehow evaporated.

 The most popular Pascal, in the day, was the UCSD P-code system, which
unfortunately was saddled by a weird OS (could only have one file open for
output per drive, as the system allocated the largest contiguous block to
the file, and required periodic "packing" to consolidate free space). (I
had Alcor Pascal on TRS-80/TRSDOS, which was also a p-code system, but on a
much friendlier OS -- object files were text; one could actually open
p-code files and hand-link functions from one program into another by
cut&paste of the text).

 Pascal, as originally defined, had a few problems (ignoring the ;
separator vs terminator and the need for begin/end blocks). Primary is that
it did not support "include" and separate compilation/linking... Everything
had to be within a single source file.

 C seems to have superseded the use of Pascal in colleges -- especially
as UNIX sources were studied for OS classes.


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