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to: Geo
from: Rich
date: 2006-09-08 08:55:20
subject: Re: Code signing

From: "Rich" 

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   While there is a feature for a user or admin to trust a code signer =
so that no user confirmation occurs, I never mentioned it.  I would not =
recommend this for an individual user as there are so few occasions for =
prompt to justify.

   If you can't remember who you trust or even make a decision each time =
you have a problem that has nothing to do with computers.

Rich

  "Geo"  wrote in message
news:45014108{at}w3.nls.net...
  What happens when a vendor you trust does something like oh say =
loading the first half of WGA on your system without your approval? Is =
there a checkbox somewhere that says "never trust the bastards
again"?

  Kinda hard to remember who you trust and who you don't without a nice =
feature that helps keep track. The only thing the OS offers is to tell =
you who signed it. It doesn't allow you to mark them as untrusted.

  Geo.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:4500ee78$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       No.  You look at the signing certificate to see if you trust both =
the signing party and the certification path.  If you do not, do not =
trust the signed entity.  If something is not signed, you don't have = even
this option.  How do you choose what to trust?

       The average Joe relies on the identity of the signing party alone =
and assumes that the certification authorities that are not distrusted =
have been vetted.

       In practice, have you ever known this to be a problem with signed =
code?  How much actual malware do you hear of that is signed?  I can't =
think of any that wasn't some PR stunt by someone that signed a demo =
which he released under his own name anyway.

    Rich


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Rich
 
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net> wrote=20 in message news:45014108{at}w3.nls.net... What happens when a vendor you trust = does=20 something like oh say loading the first half of WGA on your = system=20 without your approval? Is there a checkbox somewhere that says "never = trust=20 the bastards again"? Kinda hard to remember who you trust = and who you=20 don't without a nice feature that helps keep track. The only thing the = OS=20 offers is to tell you who signed it. It doesn't allow you to mark them = as=20 untrusted. Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:4500ee78$1{at}w3.nls.net... No. You look at = the signing=20 certificate to see if you trust both the signing party and the = certification=20 path. If you do not, do not trust the signed entity. If=20 something is not signed, you don't have even this option. How = do you=20 choose what to trust? The average Joe relies = on the=20 identity of the signing party alone and assumes that the = certification=20 authorities that are not distrusted have been vetted. In practice, have you = ever known=20 this to be a problem with signed code? How much actual malware = do you=20 hear of that is signed? I can't think of any that wasn't some = PR stunt=20 by someone that signed a demo which he released under his own name=20 anyway. Rich ------=_NextPart_000_10EB_01C6D324.836474C0-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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