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to: Gary Britt
from: Robert Comer
date: 2006-10-23 14:10:54
subject: Re: Browser Security

From: "Robert Comer" 

> If you get malware in a Browser VM and if the only thing you use that VM
> for is browsing does it matter?

Some of the malware types actually compromise your ability to browse other
sites and that's where having an easy way to clean the slate is pretty
nice.

> Ever heard of or tried this supposed non-VM browser isolators like the one
> called "sandboxie".  They are supposed to accomplish for running your
> browser what running the browser in a VM would accomplish?

IE7 on Vista has a protected mode kind of like that -- I'm undecided on
just how isolated these things can be.

--
Bob Comer





"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:453cfab6{at}w3.nls.net...
> If you get malware in a Browser VM and if the only thing you use that VM
> for is browsing does it matter?  I mean it might matter in terms of spying
> on your browser habits but otherwise won't the malware be limited to what
> it can see inside the VM?  If the only thing it can see or interact with
> inside the VM is the browser then does it matter?
>
> Ever heard of or tried this supposed non-VM browser isolators like the one
> called "sandboxie".  They are supposed to accomplish for running your
> browser what running the browser in a VM would accomplish?
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:453cc7d1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> But suppose I add a site to "Favourites".  Does that
get lost, too?  Is
>>> there an alternative method where I can save the new favourite but still
>>> have "undo disk" perform its magic?
>>
>> Yes, it would get lost too, and no, there's no easy way around that.
>> You'd have to be very specific about your actions to add the shortcut
>> without doing anything else in the session, then write the changes to
>> disk.
>>
>> Of course you could keep all your shortcuts on a web page somewhere else
>> out on the web.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "John Beamish"  wrote in message
>> news:op.thvjar00m6tn4t{at}dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com...
>>> But suppose I add a site to "Favourites".  Does that
get lost, too?  Is
>>> there an alternative method where I can save the new favourite but still
>>> have "undo disk" perform its magic?
>>>
>>> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:50:24 -0400, Rich Gauszka

>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Microsoft has a nice feature ( 'undo disks' ) in Virtual PC to
>>>> facilitate a
>>>> browser sandbox. You could probaly do something similar in
VMware using
>>>> a
>>>> 'linked clone'
>>>>
>>>> http://www.devx.com/vmspecialreport/Article/30377
>>>>
>>>> The single most valuable feature of using a virtual machine for
>>>> browsing is
>>>> the undo capability. Microsoft implements this with its undo disks
>>>> feature.
>>>> The idea is simple: Whatever takes place in the guest
machine, such as
>>>> inadvertently downloading spyware, is written to another
file instead
>>>> of the
>>>> principal virtual hard disk file where the OS and applications are
>>>> installed. When the browsing session ends, the guest
machine is turned
>>>> off
>>>> without saving any of the changes that occurred while it
was running.
>>>> The undo disks feature is off by default, so you must enable it.
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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