Well, As I read the messages in this area I'm *amazed* at what this place has 
turned into. *I* thought it was a APOGEE GAME HELP ECHO, not a "Duke Nukem 3D 
sucks and Quake rules" echo. I, personnaly have played both Duke 3D (I own 
the Full v.) and Quake and I prefer Duke. You can go on talking about how 
Quake has polygons and Duke looks like a cardboard cut-out and the Quake 
engine is superior and so on. But Duke is superior in a lot of ways:
 
First, I've noticed a lot of posts about: "Why do the enemies duck in DN3D 
when Duke has auto aiming??"
Well, Try using the "Mouse aiming", thats what its for. Ever since the first 
time Ive used it I havent gone back. I can remember many a time when I had 
launched an RPG at a Pig Cop and he ducked and took my legs out from under me 
with a shotgun blast, often killing me. And for those of you who like the 
Sniping idea, I can think of many levels in the 3rd Volume where there are 
many chances to do this. "Bank Roll" for example. 
 
Second, Monsters. Of course we cant compare the AI of DN's monsters to 
Quake's "test" monsters but lets try anyway.
DN's monsters hunt you down and kill you, they trek from the whole other side 
of the level, ride subways and trains to get to you and pretty much do their 
damnest to kick the Pi** out of you.
Quake's monsters shoot and walk into walls. 'nuff said.
 
Third, The engine.
Id seems to like stairs, I guess the just haven't found out the concept of 
slopes yet. They might as well use the orin. Doom engine. I love the BUILD 
engine. I have made levels with BUILD nonstop since I got it and I doubt if I 
ever will. (stop that is) every day I find a new, cool thing about the engine 
and I'm amazed at the possibilities of DN's engine. 
 Quake has stairs and  pathetic moving sectors.
 
Now dont get me wrong, I love Quake and I cant wait for the full version, or 
Shareware version to come out so I can change my view of the game, there's 
nothing I'd like better than to do that. But for the moment lets give Duke a 
chance and maybe stop bickering over "ID's Best!!" "No! Apogee is the best!!" 
why dont we just enjoy both of these outstanding companies games evenly.
 
Well, I've blabbered on long enough.
Cya 'round
 
K.P.
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