-=> Quoting Jim Casto to Charles Murray <=-
 -=> Quoting Charles Murray to Sondra Ball <=-
 
 CM> Yeah there building them for people like me who can see our
 JC> 
 JC> Who is "they", where are these camps, and what is the source for your
 JC> information?
      Chuck Harder her is on the AM radio 3 hrs a day.
 CM> constitutional rights have been stolden away form us under
 CM> the guise of taxes that amount to legal federal extortion .
 JC> 
 JC> Taxes are NOT "extortion". They are a system put in place to pay the
 JC> expenses of a government that I (and other U.S. citizens) have asked
 JC> our elected representatives to put into place. Just like paying dues
 JC> to belong to an organization like the Elks, the PTA or the Chamber of
 JC> Commerce. 
 CM>
      you've been brainwashed!
 you may call it demoracy I call it slavery and people like
 
 JC> America is not a democracy. It's a representative republic. (And
 JC> wasn't "slavery" considered a "good" thing in the South once upon a
 JC> time? A "good" enough institution to start a war over?
     no now it's a socialist republic!
 CM> you will be the jailers because you have been told people
 CM> like me are criminals .   ;-)
 JC> 
 JC> In the eyes of the community, if you choose to avail yourself of the
 JC> benefits of that community without paying your fair share of the
 JC> expenses for those benefits, then, yes, you are a criminal in the eyes
 JC> of the community. The community members don't _need_ to be _told_ you
 JC> are a criminal by anyone. 
     I thank you, I pay my fair share.... but I dissagee and that makes
     me bad because people have been tricked,fooled and brainwashed into
     just the same lingo your using now. "fair share" the fair share
     keeps going up and I'm getting little return . you may not be aware
     but laws and serivices differ for state to state. I'm down here]
     you not here.
 JC> Now, just as in more ancient societies, anyone that doesn't want to
 JC> obey the rules set down by the community has two choices. Either leave
 JC> the community with which they are so unhappy or get themselves elected
 JC> to be a representative of the people of that community and change the
 JC> rules. 
 JC> If someone wants to abolish all taxes, they can either start their
 JC> own country somewhere or get themselves established as a dictator and
 JC> see how long their country lasts without collecting from the masses.
     I don't want to abolish taxes just make them realistic......
 JC>
 JC> BTW, this "rule-making" business goes clear down to the family level.
 JC> Presumably the adults have made some "rules" and the children are
 JC> expected to obey them. Now there's dictatorship for you!!
 JC> But, from the statements you have made, Charles, I presume there are
 JC> no rules in your household. Everyone is "free" to do as they choose
 JC> without fear of punishment.
     you confussing issues here and that's not nice.....
     you know what I mean like laws that say you must ware a seatbelt
     etc. anti smoking in public (out doors) etc...
 JC> In the meantime, U.S. citizens like me have chosen to have the
 JC> elected representatives of our respective "communities" make the
 JC> decisions. 
 JC> Jim
     I voted every past election sence I frist registered , but my
     taxes have never went down ever not once.
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