0n (26 Oct 06) bob klahn wrote to CINDY HAGLUND...

 bk>  BK>>  Try living with a non-white child who sees nothing but Whites
 bk>  BK>>  being famous, then notice their reaction when they see someone
 bk>  BK>>  who "looks like me" being famous.

 bk> ...

 CH> There was a study where a afro-am child is given a white
 CH> doll and a black doll and asked which one she prefers. She
 CH> says the white doll. When asked, she says black dolls are
 CH> bad.

 bk>  That one is famous. And old. Around the early 1950s.

 Thanks for helping my memory. :) The columnist's point was:
 saying the black against black attitude is still alive and
 kicking today. THAT's tragic.
 ..............

 CH> I got into a very bad discussion about Bill Cosby not long
 CH> ago.... and his attitude that black people can reach the
 CH> same goals as whites and still be black rather than 'black
 CH> playing being white'.

 bk>  Well, as so many have said, that's one of the two things they
 bk>  have no choice about.
 
 Yeah. ALong with... being born and dying with dignity. Prolly a few
more there as with: You can't pick your parents/siblings/ and often
where you want to live. Such is the stuff of lemonade making.

 CH> I guess we have yet a long ways to go out of the Dark
 CH> Brained Ages.

 bk>  And some would take notice of the use of "dark" as indicating
 bk>  something unfavorable.

 I thought about that Bob, yet took it as a given everyone knows it
refers to an AGE of Ignorance. :( That is :lacking Light, rather than
having color.

 CH> ....

 CH>  WOrker group that dis encourages whites from adopting black
 CH>  children because the black children ended their Black
 CH>  Heritage!?!?! Sheeze.

 bk>  I watched a discussion on a talk show with a representative of
 bk>  that organization, and an advocate for interracial adoption.
 bk>  They both were exactly right.
 
 bk>  Part of the black heritage is learning to deal with being black
 bk>  in a society that is white oriented and dominated. They don't
 bk>  learn that from a white family. And they can't stay in the
 bk>  cocoon forever.

 Hmmm I see. Well seeems if we could get rid of the "DIFFERENCE"
stigma one wouldn't need that 'training' And what about those of us
who are born different in other ways. Do we have our ownl little
training? Or is the training to cope with bullies etc basically the
same for everybody.

 bk>  The world may be better, but it ain't fixed yet.

 Nope and won't as long as it's being mangled by fundies. :(
 Nobody seems to want to stop them.

Cindy

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