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Message-ID: http://www.wrestlingobserver.com 9/18/2003 2:36:00 PM Thursday update: Angle sad irony, Smackdown preview and early reviews, Hogan, Dome line-up announced, Pride line-up announced, Tito on Leno, Cage match DVD, Ratings, Best selling books and much more by Dave Meltzer dave{at}wrestlingobserver.com We're looking for your thoughts on last night's NWA TNA PPV show, so you can leave a thumbs up, thumbs down or thumbs in the middle along with a best and worst match to dave{at}wrestlingobserver.com. Of course, tonight is the Smackdown show headlined by the one hour Kurt Angle vs. Brock Lesnar match. Most of the live reports indicated it was among the best wrestling TV shows in years, so we'll see. The rating is also very important, because if it doesn't do well, I don't think we'll be seeing anything over 30 minutes for a long time. If it does, we'll probably see more long matches (which isn't good, because these should be kept few and far between on television). Complete line-up: *Chris Benoit & Rey Mysterio vs. Tajiri & Rhyno *Torrie Wilson & Nidia vs. Shaniqua *Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas vs. Chavo & Eddy Guerrero for tag titles *Kurt Angle vs. Brock Lesnar for Smackdown title in Iron Man rules match We're interested in your feedback as to where this ranks among the most famous long matches in modern U.S. wrestling history, such as HHH vs. Rock (2000), Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (1996), Curt Hennig vs. Nick Bockwinkel (1986), Ric Flair vs. Barry Windham (1986 and 1987), Ric Flair vs. Sting (1988) and Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (1989). This is from a reader who doesn't want his name out who saw it live on the dish Tuesday night: "Match was superb. I had high hopes going in and was actually expecting to be disappointed. Certainly was not. Outstanding show. I personally think it would have to go back to some of the great Clashes to compare it with this week's Smackdown. It was one of the top five wrestling programs ever to air on TV in North America. Because it will be the most watched of all the Match of the Year candidates this year, I think it will win for sure. It will probably be the most watched legit Match of the year candidate dating back to Flair-Steamboat." (Note: Far more people will watch this match than Flair-Steamboat even though it won't do nearly the rating, just because so many fewer homes had cable in 1989). --In a bizarre coincidence, ABC interviewed Kurt Angle on the subject of angina on Monday afternoon for a story that was posted this morning on abcnews.go.com. That was just a few hours before the death of his sister from heart problems. The reporter was not aware of the death of his sister when posting the story. Angle is off all the house shows this weekend and the WWE did announce later yesterday that Lesnar vs. Undertaker in a cage match will headline Madison Square Garden on Saturday night. --The new season of Survivor opens today with independent wrestler Jon Dalton as the lead and most obnoxious character. Survivor web sites list him as one of the first people voted off the show. I wonder if the networks at their stockholders meetings complain that internet spoilers are the reason Survivor's ratings aren't what they once were. --New Japan has a press conference scheduled for tonight. It is believed to be to announce the Hogan vs. Chono match, if the deal can be put together. The company held a press conference earlier today to announce Yoshihiro Takayama vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan for the IWGP title, Josh Barnett vs. Yoshiki Takahashi for the King of Pancrase open weight title, a Junior heavyweight Royal Rumble with Jushin Liger, Koji Kanemoto, El Samurai, Tiger Mask, Heat, Masahito Kakihara, Masayuki Naruse, Gedo, Jado and Katsushi Takemura --Pride announced earlier today the following matches for its 10/5 show at the Saitama Super Arena: Carlos Newton vs. Renzo Gracie, Dokonojonsuke Mishima vs. Ralph Gracie, Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Daniel Gracie, Daijyu Takase vs Rodrigo Gracie and Kazuhiro Hamanaka vs. Ryan Gracie. Four more matches will be added to the show. It won't air on PPV in the U.S. until 12/21, so nobody will care much about this one. --Shelton Benjamin will be undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery today and be out for a few weeks --Tito Ortiz and Bruce Buffer will appear in a skit on the Jay Leno show on Friday night. Also featured in the segment were Fabiano Iha and Dean Lister. --Sunday Kimo vs. Rene Rooze match on the K-1 show at the Yokohama Arena has been changed to Rooze vs. Ivan Salaverry (much smaller guy but also much better fighter). This will be an MMA rules match and not a K-1 rules match. Kimo had to cancel due to an ankle injury. --TOP 15 BEST SELLING PRO WRESTLING BOOKS (based on amazon.com rankings from earlier today) 1. Lita by Amy Dumas (1,140) 2. Wrestlecrap: The Very Worst of Pro Wrestling by R.D. Reynolds (9,141)* 3. Classy Freddie Blassie by Fred Blassie (12,244) 4. Have More Money Now by Bradshaw (12,283) 5. Bobby the Brain by Bobby Heenan (17,796) 6. Hollywood Hulk Hogan by Hulk Hogan (17,807) 7. Stone Cold Steve Austin by Steve Austin (18,952)* 8. Hardy Boyz by Matt & Jeff Hardy (20,706) 9. In the Pit with Piper by Roddy Piper (28,148) 10. The Rock Says by Rock (31,571) 11. I'm Next by Bill Goldberg (34,813) 12. Positively Page by Diamond Dallas Page (45,500) 13. Bodyslams by Gary Cappetta (51,758) 14. Foley is Good by Mick Foley (51,890) 15. It's Good to be a King Sometimes by Jerry Lawler (53,583) *Based on advanced orders for books not released Notes: The Lita book was released two days ago to very little fanfare and an uncharacteristic lack of hype on WWE television, but it is still opening strong. I figured, like the Hardys book, this would have a strong open because of their cult following, but didn't figure on the lack of hype. I haven't read the book so can't comment on it, but the staying power will probably not be strong unless it's a really good book. Aside from that, none of the books are selling right now. Mick Foley's Tietam Brown was at 10,510. --Results from Arena Coliseo in Mexico City on Tuesday night for the TV taping: Astro Boy & Sombra de Plata & Zetta b Polvora & Sakura & Vaquero, Dr. X & Starman & Alan Stone b Halcon Negro & Mogur & Valentin Mayo, Ringo Mendoza & El Sicodelico Jr. & Tigre Blanco b Hooligan & Mazada & Veneno-DQ, Tag team tournament with heel & face partners: Rayo de Jalisco Jr. & El Satanico b Dr. Wagner Jr. & Villano III, Black Tiger & Vampiro b Olimpico & Universo 2000, Rayo & Satanico b Tiger & Vampiro, Atlantis b Black Warrior in more than 30:00 to keep Tohoku Jr. title (thanks to Kris Zellner) --WWE will be releasing a five-and-a-half hour double DVD set of famous cage matches featuring Bruno Sammartino vs. Ivan Koloff (1975), Bob Backlund vs. Pat Patterson (1979), Sammartino vs. Larry Zbyszko (1980), Backlund vs. Stan Hansen (1981), Backlund vs. Jimmy Snuka (1982), Snuka vs. Don Muraco (1983), Magnum T.A. vs. Tully Blanchard (1985), Ric Flair vs. Dusty Rhodes (1986), Rock & Roll Express vs. Ole & Arn Anderson (1986), Hulk Hogan vs. Paul Orndorff (1987), Flair vs. Ron Garvin (1987), Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (1993), Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (1994), Bret Hart vs. Isaac Yankem (Kane) (1995), HHH vs. Mankind (1997), HHH vs. Rock (1999), Vince McMahon vs. Steve Austin (1999), Edge & Christian vs. Hardys (2000), Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit (2001) and Edge vs. Angle (2002) (thanks to Frank Douglas) --Raw's two hours finished No. 5 and No. 10 in the cable ratings this week. They won't see No. 1 until January at the earliest with the NFL having the top spots. The Sunday night ESPN game was first, and the pre-game show was second. The movie "Sex and Single Mom" was third on Lifetime and a SpongeBob episode was No. 4. --Mediaweek.com has already written that after debuting at No. 88 with a strong lead-in, the chances of "The Mullets" taking it are "grim." --The City Council in Norwich, England pulled the plug on a 10/4 wrestling show because promoters Ricky and Julia (Sweet Saraya) Knight didn't have correct permits for a show scheduled to be headlined by Jake Roberts. The two had a public entertainment license, but failed to get a sports entertainment license, which take 28 days to be approved. --The Florida Times-Union reviewed the new K-1 video game called K-1 World Grand Prix, and noted that Bob Sapp is not in the game. How do things like that happen? (thanks to Wes Jones) --Today is the 10 year anniversary of the day Paul Heyman had his first show as ECW booker on September 18, 1993 with the debut of Public Enemy. (thanks to Jeff Schoun) --WWE is advertising for a Storyline Researcher, whose job is to help the writing staff maintain continuity in storylines and research future storylines for continuity issues, chart Neilsen ratings to provide analysis of trends (jeez, just buy an Observer), generate ideas. One of the requirements is knowledge of past and present WWE talent and storylines. They also want 2 plus years of soap opera writing experience. --TNA Xplosion results from last night: Erik Watts b Rip Stone, Elix Skipper b Jerrelle Clark, Christopher Daniels b ?, C.M. Punk & Julio Dinero b J-Rocc & ?, Sean Casey b Kato (thanks to Jimmie Daniel) --NWC tonight in Charleston, IL at Stix Bar and Grill on the EIU campus with a 10 p.m. show headlined by Honky tonk Man and Tracy Smothers --The Hall of Fame banquet in New Rochelle, NY we've written about was canceled because the club it was scheduled at wouldn't be completed. They are looking for both a new location and a new date. --Bryan White at HomelessBastid{at}aol.com is looking for tapes of the X division tournament show and the one cent TNA recap shows. --ACW on 10/4 in Charlotte at the West Charlotte Rec Center --Major League Wrestling has added Mikey Whipwreck vs. Norman Smiley to tomorrow night's show in Fort Lauderdale --- Internet Rex 2.29* Origin: The gateway at Swills (1:229/3000.1) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 @PATH: 229/3000 123/500 106/2000 633/267 |
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