From: Ellen K. 

Well, the machine's dead now.

Worst of all, A BUNCH OF STUFF I OSTENSIBLY BURNED ONTO CD's THIS MORNING
DOES NOT SHOW UP ON THEM NOW.   I am extremely upset... until I
discovered this I was thinking, ok, so I lose a couple days out of my life
reinstalling apps, stop feeling like the world has come to an end. I guess
this is not REALLY the end of the world either, but some of that stuff I
can't replace and I'm very very upset about it.

IF THE NEW DRIVE IS THE NEW C, WILL IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET ANY DATA OFF THE
OLD ONE IF I CAN GET SOMEONE TO ATTACH IT TO THE OTHER CABLE?

And/or if I install the backup software on this box, AND the missing files
ARE on the backup CD's that got created before the machine blew up, could I
restore them onto this one?  If it makes any difference, the other machine
is NTFS and this one is FAT32.

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:01:47 -0500, "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message :

>Save off what data you need/want, otherwise you're in for a total reinstall
>anyway...
>
>- Bob Comer
>
>
>"Ellen K."  wrote in message
>news:4724su8n4tis7nread810jmv3ob3apt78j{at}4ax.com...
>> DO YOU GUYS THINK I SHOULD TRY TO KEEP THE BAD DRIVE, MAYBE GET SOMEBODY
>> TO TRY TO GET THE REST OFF, OR JUST FORGET IT?
>>
>> On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:11:02 -0500, "Geo."
 wrote in
>> message :
>>
>> >It won't work, she has to copy to a Win9x PC or CD to store it
until they
>> >replace the drive.
>> >
>> >I was thinking she could backup to the other PC but the drive is too
>small.
>> >Her only real option is a backup program that can backup to CD and then
>to
>> >backup everything possible.
>> >
>> >Geo.
>> >
>> >"Rich"  wrote in message news:3dc1d002{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >   Yes.  Make sure to be logged in under another account with
>administrative
>> >rights and use XCOPY /SEVHKIRY or similar to get all hidden files and
>> >preserve the file attributes.
>> >
>> >Rich
>> >
>> >  "Ellen K."  wrote
in message
>> >news:06h3sukiv6a7r1mjec41kjao2hnrnfer1f{at}4ax.com...
>> >  XCOPY everything under \Documents and Settings\AccountName?
>> >
>> >  On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:39:11 -0800, "Rich"
 wrote in message
>> >  :
>> >
>> >  >   Cloning a failing hard drive is a risky adventure.  You may be
>cloning
>> >errors that already exist and since you have been experiencing problems
>it
>> >is likely that there are some already.
>> >  >
>> >  >   There is less risk if you back up and restore only
your personal
>> >application settings.  You can do this by logging on under a different
>> >account, using XCOPY or other means to copy your accounts settings under
>> >\Documents and Settings\AccountName.  Once you get the system restored
>and
>> >all the applications reinstalled and you have logged on to your account
>at
>> >least once after this, you can log on to another account and
use XCOPY or
>> >other means to copy back just the saved tree from \Documents and
>> >Settings\AccountName.  I would recommend you create a back up of the
>clean
>> >values first in case you have problems.
>> >  >
>> >  >Rich
>> >  >
>> >  >  "Ellen K." 
wrote in message
>> >news:5m73sug5p44ipnh1d4vg9s5tjm83rqko18{at}4ax.com...
>> >  >  Turns out the weird stuff the Dell box has been doing (first the
>> >  >  security stuff got farkled, then I became unable to
print from IE,
>> >  >  latest was the Search thing stopped working) is all
due to a failing
>> >  >  hard drive.
>> >  >
>> >  >  Dell is sending someone to replace the hard drive, but
that is all
>they
>> >  >  will do.
>> >  >
>> >  >  I have the Dell restore CD, which restores the machine
to what it
>was
>> >  >  when they shipped it, but unfortunately I do not have
an image of
>the
>> >  >  system with all my apps installed.   (Please, you can
beat me up for
>> >  >  this some other time, not right now.  Classic case of
shoemaker's
>> >  >  children syndrome.)   Reinstalling Visual Studio and
SQL Server with
>> >all
>> >  >  the service packs and patches is a HUGE job, then
there's also the
>Java
>> >  >  IDE, only less onerous because there are no service packs.
>> >  >
>> >  >  I've already copied my data.
>> >  >
>> >  >  If I get a cloning software, am I correct in assuming
it will not be
>> >  >  able to do anything with whatever's on the bad places
on the disk?
>So
>> >  >  it's kinda useless except for making an image once I
get everything
>> >  >  restored so that I'll never have this problem again?  
Or is there
>such
>> >  >  as thing as cloning software that lets you restore selectively?
>WHAT
>> >  >  CLONING SOFTWARE SHOULD I GET?   Regardless of whether selective
>> >restore
>> >  >  is supported, I need to be able to burn the image to CD's.
>> >  >
>> >  >  WHAT BACKUP SOFTWARE CAN I GET THAT RUNS ON W2K AND
WILL LET ME BACK
>UP
>> >  >  TO CD'S?   The one that comes with W2K doesn't let me.
>> >  >
>> >  >  ALSO I NEED TO BE ABLE TO BACK UP THE REGISTRY. 
George said if I
>back
>> >  >  up the registry files and they aren't on the bad parts
of the disk,
>I
>> >  >  have a shot at being able to restore my apps -- can
someone tell me
>the
>> >  >  names of those files?   Or will the backup software know it?
>> >  >
>> >  >  THANKS IN ADVANCE, I am so freaked out right now....
>> >
>>
>

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