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echo: educator
to: MICHAEL MARTINEZ
from: RON MCDERMOTT
date: 1996-07-31 09:00:00
subject: IVAN ILLICH 3/3

through signing...
And finally, simply because YOU choose to define mans'
greatest achievement as language, doesn't mean that it is..
MM>It is the history of the Promethean endeavor to forge institutions 
MM>in order to corral each of the rampant ills.
RM> As opposed to raising up temples of worship to them?
RM> Other than being very flowery, what is this meant to convey?
MM>It conveys the history of human endeavor.
According to a specific point of view...
MM>It's a mythological attempt...
You've got THAT right...
MM>to describe our _purpose_ and why we do what we do.  I mean, why
MM>_do_ we go around forging things and being so determined in our 
MM>actions in this world?
Perhaps it is in our nature to DO so?  Perhaps we have
succeeded as an organism simply because this IS our nature?
What has the capture of immaginary ills to do with REAL
events?  Why would people have "forged things" PRIOR to the
the myth?  Or are you suggesting that Prometheus actually
DID wrest fire from the gods?
MM>The Promethean explanation is one of the best ones I've come across.
I didn't see any "explanation", simply a flowery passage
which conveyed nothing in the way of anything tangible...
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