From: "bob chronister" 

actually just looked at my buslink usb2 and it does not have one either.
sure have numerous usb1 devices that have dual connectors. "Robert
Comer"  wrote in message
news:3dca87d2{at}w3.nls.net...
> None of my USB devices have an output port...
>
> - Bob Comer
>
>
> "bob chronister"  wrote in message
> news:3dca832a{at}w3.nls.net...
> > I have numerous usb devices that are daisy chained. as long as they have
> > their own power, it is not  a problem.
> > "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
> > news:3dca748a{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > I've seen devices that can (e.g. a keyboard with a USB port) but I
think
> > > they build a mini hub into those.
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > > "bob chronister" 
wrote in message
> > > news:3dca6e9a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > > bull hockey, usb2 can easily daisy chain devices.
> > > >
> > > > "Adam Flinton" 
wrote in message
> > > > news:3dca53fe$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > > > Different technology to address the same problem
(i.e. like SMB &
> > NFS).
> > > > >
> > > > > f/w can daisy chain devices (like scsi), USB can
daisy chain hubs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Speeds are about the same at the moment but
firewire has greater
> > upwards
> > > > > growth capabilites (1 gbps has been demo'ed).
> > > > >
> > > > > Adam
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ellen K."
 wrote in message
> > > > > news:uo5ksuoqi161glvb6hrsl34d4gri2fkb7p{at}4ax.com...
> > > > > > What is the exact difference between USB and Firewire?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:06:36 -0500,
"Robert Bononno"
> > > 
> > > > > > wrote in message :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Firewire is the solution in that case.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Adam Flinton
 wrote in message
> > > > > news:3dc81d5f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> "bob chronister"
 wrote in message
> > > > > > >> news:3dc809bd{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > > > > >> > ellen is not someone used to
scsi. i am simply offering her
> > > > > alternatives
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > the low profile case. (and i
use ide drives, usb2 drives
and
> > > > > firewire. i
> > > > > > >> > know how they compare to scsi;
not sure you do :-))
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I know...but I also prefer a small
box with external disks on
> an
> > > > > expandable
> > > > > > >> bus. E.g. let's imagine Ellen had a
USB2 hub with 8
ports....in
> > > > Ellen's
> > > > > > >> recent case...she could have popped
down to the shops, picked
> up
> > a
> > > > new
> > > > > USB2
> > > > > > >> disk, copied her stuff over &
then...etc.etc. Much simpler &
> > > cleaner
> > > > > (for
> > > > > > >> one thing no poking around inside the box).
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Adam
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > "Adam Flinton"
 wrote in message
> > > > > > >> > news:3dc7e864{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > > > > >> > > ROFLMAO....uhhhh yeah if
you want it to crawl compared to
> > > > SCSI....
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > How come you're not saying
"get a PCI SCSI Card & SCSI
> > disks"?
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Welcome to the world of
easy to use internal/external
> busses
> > > 
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Adam
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > "bob chronister"
 wrote in message
> > > > > > >> > > news:3dc7c684$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > > > > >> > > > problem is not as
serious as you think. you can get
usb2
> > > cards
> > > > > > >> (adaptec
> > > > > > >> > > > makes one) that sits
inh a pci slot and you simply
attach
> > > usb2
> > > > > hard
> > > > > > >> > drives
> > > > > > >> > > > which are external.
> > > > > > >> > > > "Ellen K."
 wrote in message
> > > > > > >> > > >
news:0niesu8bdeacee3imp47tvuaoqp3188fhd{at}4ax.com...
> > > > > > >> > > > > Well, the Dell
guy came today and put in the new HDD,

> > also
> > > > > nicely
> > > > > > >> > showed
> > > > > > >> > > > > me how to put
the other one in to try to read the
data.
> > > > > Actually
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> > > > > box will not
accomodate two hard drives due to the
form
> > > > factor,
> > > > > > >> > > > > something I
didn't know.  (Which means if I ever want
> > more
> > > > room
> > > > > on
> > > > > > >> it,
> > > > > > >> > I
> > > > > > >> > > > > hafta buy a
bigger drive and move everything.
)
> > > In
> > > > > fact,
> > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > >> > > > > won't even put
up with having the two-drive capable
> CABLE
> > > on
> > > > > ONE
> > > > > > >> hard
> > > > > > >> > > > > drive, so I'm
running it open for now so the drive
> > doesn't
> > > > get
> > > > > too
> > > > > > >> > hot.
> > > > > > >> > > > > (What doesn't
fit is the green case thing that goes
> over
> > > the
> > > > > hard
> > > > > > >> > drive
> > > > > > >> > > > > and has an
opening that matches the fan opening.).
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > Happy to report
I succeeded in reinstalling the O/S
and
> > > > device
> > > > > > >> drivers
> > > > > > >> > > > > with only one
scary moment, when I saw it said C was
> > FAT32
> > > I
> > > > > got
> > > > > > >> upset
> > > > > > >> > > > > because I wanted
NTFS, but that was resolved a few
> > screens
> > > > > later.
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > I HATE HAVING TO
REBOOT AFTER INSTALLING EVERY SINGLE
> > > DRIVER
> > > > > THOUGH!
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > Networking isn't
quite working yet.  This box can see
> the
> > > > Dell
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >> > read
> > > > > > >> > > > > files there, but
not write, even though I gave this
> user
> > > > write
> > > > > > >> > > > > permission over
there.   Ideas?
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > A couple times
on rebooting  I again got that weird
> > message
> > > > > about
> > > > > > >> > there
> > > > > > >> > > > > being no paging
file or the paging file is too small
> > > > (?!?!?),
> > > > > but I
> > > > > > >> > > > > just tried it
again and now it seems to be happy.
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > Have not
reinstalled any apps yet except the stomp
> backup
> > > > > thing.
> > > > > > >> Was
> > > > > > >> > > > > dying to see if
I would be able to get anything off
the
> > > > backup
> > > > > CD's
> > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > >> > > > > made before
destructing, but instead of listing the
> > folders
> > > > and
> > > > > > >> files
> > > > > > >> > it
> > > > > > >> > > > > just shows me
"One-Button Backup - 10/31/2002" etc.
> Did
> > I
> > > > > shoot
> > > > > > >> > myself
> > > > > > >> > > > > in the foot by
using the one-button backup?  It does
> have
> > > an
> > > > > option,
> > > > > > >> > > > > "When
restoring files that already exist, do not
> replace
> > > > files
> > > > > on my
> > > > > > >> > > > > computer.",
 does this really mean what it sounds
like,
> > > i.e.
> > > > > from
> > > > > > >> > > > > everything on
those CD's it will only restore the
files
> > > that
> > > > > are not
> > > > > > >> > > > > currently on the
machine?   Which would mean it
> wouldn't
> > > > > overwrite
> > > > > > >> any
> > > > > > >> > > > > system files
etc, only data files?   What if it tries
> to
> > > > > restore my
> > > > > > >> > old
> > > > > > >> > > > > apps?   It won't
make the necessary registry entries,
> > > right?
> > > > > So I
> > > > > > >> > > > > could just
delete the files afterwards and reinstall
> > > > everything
> > > > > as
> > > > > > >> > > > > previously
planned?   Or am I gonna make a mess?
> Ideas?
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > Oh, the BIG
QUESTION:   The guy said I hafta make
very
> > sure
> > > > > when I
> > > > > > >> put
> > > > > > >> > > > > the old drive in
that it doesn't touch anything
metal.
> > Is
> > > > the
> > > > > > >> special
> > > > > > >> > > > > bag the new one
came in sufficient protection against
> > > > whatever
> > > > > > >> > touching
> > > > > > >> > > > > metal would do,
or do I have to put something else
> around
> > > it,
> > > > > and if
> > > > > > >> > so,
> > > > > > >> > > > > what?
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks again,
you guys are the best.    :)
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