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to: Michael Grant
from: Vladimir Donskoy
date: 2004-10-14 19:03:02
subject: Re: Nodes or member of the FIDONET

Hi Michael!

14 Oct 04, Michael Grant wrote to Vladimir Donskoy:

 VD>> Policy (4.07) use both expression "node" and
"system"...

 VD>> In first case not clearly purpose of ZMH - this sample imitated
 VD>> claim, and may (must) to be remove.

 MG> All zone mail hour requires is that during that time, all nodes be able to

"Nodes"? Not "systems"?

You use term "node", but I ask you to explain it!

 MG> accept netmail. Policy does not specify /how/ the node is to receive
 MG> netmail, however. It does mention FTS-0001, but FTS-0001 is hopelessly out
 MG> of date and the FTSC refuses to update it to reflect the reality of the
 MG> network today, causing that stipulation to be largely ignored by the
 MG> coordinator structure. (FTS-0001 sessions can be done over the internet,
 MG> however.) What this means is that a node who accepts routed netmail from
 MG> their echomail uplink during ZMH and from no one else is therefore still
 MG> in compliance with policy.

 MG> Policy does not specify that a node must receive /direct/ netmail from
 MG> every other node in the zone, it just specifies that the node must accept
 MG> netmail during that time. Therefore, ZMH can be defined as a routed
 MG> netmail event.

Without ZMH - what member of FIDO must to do with netmail? He must transfer
it to another systems or no? If "no" - what he is
"node"? He is only "end system", and he must receive
mail in any suitable time (he is not annoying any other systems - he not
connected with them, only 1 uplink, analogue "point")! And
different between "node" and "point" in this case only
on responsible for own traffic.

 VD>> But for second case system must not only receive netmail but to
 VD>> transfer it beyond (so systems without any downlinks must be remove
 VD>> from nodelist)...

 MG> Not so. All transfers are done voluntarily, and no nodes are required to
 MG> transfer any netmail whatsoever during ZMH. Net Coordinators and nodelist
 MG> designated Hubs are required to /route/ netmail to the nodes of their
 MG> nets, but how the mail is ultimately transferred is left entirely up to
 MG> the Coordinator or Hub to decide, in cooperation with the nodes, and such
 MG> transfers do not have to be done exclusively during ZMH.

As I write previos - same question: is it "node" or "end
system" at netmail route? "Node" must distribute mail to
another systems, "end system" must only receive mail and not send
it beyond.

 MG> The Coordinator or Hub may require that the node poll them to pick up the
 MG> mail, or they may decide to initiate the contact of the node, or they may
 MG> decide to route the mail through a third party hub, but they are not
 MG> required to initiate the contact, they are only required to route the
 MG> netmail to their nodes.

Yes. But it is not my question...

Vladimir

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