ù Quoting Mark Raciborski from a message to Ryan Bagueros  ù 
MR> - Yep, and the that Cleave guy said he enjoyed raping women, explain 
MR> to me how that is self defence? By that logic, i could walk around 
MR> downtown with dual m-60sstrapped to my car, and shoot people standing 
MR> on the side walk and claim its self defence. Oh, well, i laugh a 
Hm, your information about Eldridge Cleaver is way off. At one time in his 
life
he was a rapist, and a Black Panther, and a Republican. What this says for 
black activism is beyond me. It sounds like one man's life experiences: 
nothing
more, nothing less. Incidentally, I would *truly* appreciate a quote that 
indicates Cleaver *enjoyed* raping women. And when you do come out with that 
quote (which you won't, as you probably just made it up), I'll prove you 
wrong 
again.
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