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to: ROB DENNIS
from: IVY IVERSON
date: 1997-12-31 21:35:00
subject: [1/2] Jammer hunting - Th

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-=> On 12-27-97  01:41, Rob Dennis said to Ivy Iverson,<=-
-=>"About Jammer hunting - Thanks!...,"<=-
 
Hi, Rob;
...
 
 RD> It is something I put together after 4 months straight of jamming and
 RD> crap on  the local repeaters here. It helped to nail one pain in the
 RD> butt and put fear into several others.
 
Well deserved!  (Hopefully it went all the way to terror!)  :-}
 
 RD> Now with APRS DF-ing is easier to do with one stationary point
 RD> and several  mobiles using the APRS software to nail the twit.
 
That should be a more efficent way of tracking them.  There are a few
Hams in this area that are playing with GPS and APRS, but I think the
main tracking tools around here at this time are directional antennas,
including a couple of handi-finders.  (I am hoping to build a handi-finder
for myself).
 
 RD> I'm still playing with the APRS software,but only for the DF part of
 RD> it for now as I do not have a GPS unit yet.
 
Prices are coming down.  The first ads I saw for them had price tags of
several hundred dollars.  Recently I saw one for, (IIRC), around $125.00.
 
 II> Strange thing happened about a week ago, though.  I happened to be
 II> listening around to out of town repeaters, and I heard someone local
 II> trying to jam a conversation on the OUTPUT of a machine perhaps 40 miles
 II> away.  It obviously wasn't bothering them ome bit, so I switched to
 
 RD> Sounds like you have a stolen or "found" radio in the hands of a
 RD> someone who has no idea of how a repeater really works.
 
This is quite possible in this case, but that is not how our local jammer
works.  (It could be a copy-cat).  The main jammer hereabouts has a dual
band, probably a mobile, with crossband repeat, and has used it to lock
up both the 444.175 and the 147.06 machnes by crossband repeating when
the link is on: set it up to crossband repeat and walk away.  The first
person that keys either repeater sends it locks up both machines, one of
which is the main 2M machine for the county, and carries probably 90% of
all repeater traffic here.
 
 RD> He/she/it has probably figured that since they can only hear one of
 RD> the people talking so toss a carrier to jam the other person listening.
 RD> Commonly called the cb-mentality.
 
Actually, both sides were coming in equally strong, (being a repeater
output.)  IMO, the average CBer doesn't have the brains to pound sand
down a rat hole when it comes to the technology which Hams take for
granted.
 
 II> simplex and said something like, "You aren't bothering them one bit, but
 II> you are sure showing YOUR stupidity.  This is KB9QPM, and you don't have
 II> the GONADS to give YOUR call!"  Amazingly enough, not only did that
 II> jamming attempt stop instantly, but I haven't heard any on the local
 II> machines since then either!  Maybe it was enough of a shock to 
im/her/it
 II> enough to pound a little sense into their thick skull!  I doubt that it
 
 RD> Probably scared the crap right out of them when they heard someone
 RD> else on  their "private" channel talking right at them.
 RD> Several times I've heard yo-yos blabbering away on 10m AM(!) with
 RD> Roger-beeps at 28.045 up to 28.325 and they freak when someone comes on
 RD> and asks them for a callsign.
 
Interesting question: What happens if the FCC hears about a legitimate
Ham using AM to tell a CBer to give a call... in the CW segment of 10?
I would be more inclined to load up all the power I had, point the beam
right down the children's throats, and start calling CQ on CW.  If they
move to another frequency in the CW segment, just follow them!  They just
MIGHT get the idea that it's not real friendly terratory for them, and
I, (the legal Ham), am perfectly within MY rights to be using that
frequency in CW mode!  What do you think the FCC would say if some dumb
Chickenbander calls 'em up and says, "Somebody was interfering with our
conversation on the radio."  "What frequency?" sez Mr. FCC.  The
birdbrain replies, "28.050," (or Channel 56 or whatever it would be).
"And what's your callsign?"  "This is Skipmaster," replies the dumbo.
"Ok, what's your address... We'll be right over." replies the FCC
representitive.  Heh heh... Something I'd LOVE to see happen, and it
would qualify for the TV show: "America's DUMBEST Criminals!"  ROTFL!
 
 RD> They seem to think they are in a "private" frequency area on their
 RD> radios that no-one else has and it scares them when someone DOES show
 RD> up. Same as the clowns who got their hands on 440Mhz business band
 RD> radios that had been modified for amateur use and started a "club" on a
 RD> 440 simplex freq here. They got a BIG surprise when someone broke in
 RD> asking for a callsign after they heard a conversation about tearing
 RD> down some guy's antenna! 
 
I'm surprised that they weren't challanged for callsigns as soon as they
showed up on the frequency!
...
 
 RD> 70 percent of those who jam are -bored $h!tless- with what or whom
 RD> they listen too,so decide to "spice" things up by trashing a repeater
 RD> and forcing people off it. (makes them feel `big' ego wise)
 RD> The leftover 30 percent have an axe to grind with one particular
 RD> group or one person and trash the repeater only when their favourite
 RD> traget is on the air. (commonly known as: get the local bucket-mouth
 RD> off the air)
 
Says the ratchet-jaw, right?  (NOT talking about you!)   :-}
 
Seriously, though, I think our principal antaginist is a member of the
30% group.  He/she/it seems to have two axes to grind: One particular
Ham and the 2M/440 link, (which he has pretty well caused to be shut
down most of the time now).
 
 RD> 100 percent of those caught red faced / handed DENY doing
 RD> the jamming and may/will attempt to lay the blame on someone else
 RD> entirely.
 
Of course!  If they are errant CBers they just know that they are in the
wrong and will try to avoid the consequences, but if they are licensed
Hams, they KNOW how stiff the consequences can be!  (Like a $2,000 fine
 
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