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echo: philos
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from: DAY BROWN
date: 1997-12-19 19:30:00
subject: R: Random shit

From what I can tell of the opinions of mathematicians & computer 
programmers, random numbers are not what they usta be.  We see an 
awful lot of patterns in one with enough digits in it.  There are 
some theories which suggest how difficult it is to design a truly 
-random- number. 
 
The idea that a monkey at the keyboard will -eventually- type out 
Shakespeare given enough time, seems to be irrefutable; yet those 
who argue for a creating god based on the -order- they see around 
us dismiss the trillions of eons that Chaos has had to develop by 
now, into what -appears- to be, a holy plan. 
 
There is a view that God himself did *not* make the universe, but 
that the universe made God, as well as us.  Again, there has been 
enough time for Her to evolve before, and with us.  This has some 
benefit- namely that the disaster we see wasn't created by god if 
god did not create the world, but evolved with it. 
 
Even the Great Olympic Gods had to contend with the Murphy's laws 
in their plans.  The atheist may argue that there is no god, but: 
I haven't seen any so foolish as to say that shit doesn't happen. 
I don't argue that god is behind the shit, but- that Her presence 
impacts the nature of randomness, and there ain't no free lunch. 
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