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to: Ulrich Schroeter
from: Vladimir Donskoy
date: 2004-10-15 12:36:20
subject: Re: Nodes or member of the FIDONET

Hello Ulrich!

15 Oct 04 07:30, Ulrich Schroeter wrote to Mark Lewis:

 US> The interpretation "accept netmails from host only" was born
 US> in relation with ip only nodes, 'cause modem only nodes cannot
 US> contact ip only nodes directly ... so directly has moved to
 US> a more "indirect directly". Sending to the direct uplink of such
 US> a node is like direct ...

 US> This interpretation is a zone 1 interpretation.
 US> This interpretation is not a zone 2 interpretation.
 US> I haven't heard/read yet how zone 3, zone 4, zone 5 and zone 6
 US> interpretes this.
 US> The zcc/ic decision about the Grant/Vlist case was no decision
 US> or statement of this interpretation (so reads to me).

For example I can to write about interpretation of this in our region
(Z2R50): letters with destignation to PVT nodes (IP- or email-only, for
example) are considered delivered to purpose node if these delivered to
node's hub (or host if hub is absent). Delivery can be traced under ARQ
receipts.

 US> With the nodelist listing you've accepted policy and that you're
 US> able that every other sysop in nodelist who sends netmails under
 US> the aspect of 2.1.6 can contact you directly to the
 US> system listed with given infos in the nodelist, at least at zmh.
 US> So that's the minimum requirement that policy part 2.1.6 can work.

 US> But remember, this doesn't relates directly to the Grant/Vlist case ...

In our country it is incorrect: we have same phone networks (global
territorially) without full connection between these! For example nodes
with ISDN-phone can call POTS-nodes, but POTS-nodes can not call these
(have not connectivity). But we have companies phone networks (for example
- oil-companies) without connect to POTS (all calls transfer only to
telephone girl who can connect the wanted party)... All companies nodes are
PVT now, but what different between IP-nodes, in general?

 US> One word about the subject:

 >> This document establishes the policy for sysops who are members of the
 >> FidoNet organization of electronic bulletin board systems.  FidoNet is
 >> defined by a NodeList issued weekly by the International Coordinator.

 US> This is a clear direction given in the policy overview, that the sysops
 US> of the node systems listed in the nodelist are members of the fidonet
 US> organization. so points and users are not members, only participants.

There are term "The FidoNet organization of electronic bulletin board
systems". Have your node a BBS? :-)
So - for this Policy need change... Or extend term "BBS" to
"any communication".

Vladimir Donskoy.

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