>> OHmmm... to a point but you must admit we can often
 >> get away with not
 >> seeing too well far better than not being able to hear
 >> very well tone
 >> wise that is.

 >  BM> I suppose, if you consider colors to be equivalent of tone. It's sort
 >  BM> of an apples and oranges thing, though.

 >  Well for me anyway corrective lenses help me a lot
 > more than a hearing aid
 > every did. :)

Now, that I can understand.  You can see an improvement in vision much more
than you can hear an improvement that the audiologist says is there. To my
way of thinking, for a hearing aid to noticeably improve your
comprehension, it would have to do the equivalent of glasses making a
totally colorblind person suddenly able to see green, blue, purple, orange,
etc., instead of shades of gray.

 >  Speaking of color and tone, what do you think of
 > color tones? You
 > know those tests they give for color blindness? The
 > spots with
 > different colors and you have to discern the number or
 > letter 'hidden'
 > in the picture? Well I can do that. But for some
 > strange reason the
 > last time I took it I had trouble with some tones..and
 > so I got this
 > color blind label even though I can discern tones.
 > Isn't that weird?

Three comments on this:  First, eat those bright colored veggies.  Second,
if you have cataracts, you might discover with their removal that some
socks you always thought were black are actually a deep, deep purple.  Even
so, I believe color discrimination declines somewhat with age.  Third, as
you get older, your sight gets dimmer.  I was in a bay, once, waiting while
my oil was being changed. The young man peeked in the window to get my
mileage, and recited it.  I couldn't even see the numbers, let alone read
them, it was so dark!  What an education! I turned on the parking lights to
illiminate the numbers, and he had read them correctly.

 > I have some trouble with black/navy blue/brown (as in
 > sorting socks)
 > but when I compare I can tell the difference. Peach/
 > coral is close too
 > and sometimes certain shades of green look blue to me
 > under florescent
 > lighting. hmm. Anyone else have that problem? I have a
 > feeling it's
 > not the color discrimination I have a problem with as
 > much as what the
 > light level/type is.

You can check that out easily enough.  Use a brighter light; if it helps,
that's at least part of the problem.  An interesting experiment:  I bought
some "blue blocker" Polarized sunglasses some years ago.  These
glasses made the sky look yellow to brown, and my blue turn signal in the
dash was visible only when I was driving through shade.  My blue slacks
look black, yellow things look yellow, white things look yellow, etc.  talk
about weird.  The sky color is pretty well normalized, now, but I still
have to take the glasses off to tell whether I'm looking at white or yellow
flowers, or to determine the "real" color of that pretty car.


 >> Say you're in a restaurant and cant read the menu
 >> because the print is
 >> too fancy and or small and the lighting isn't good. SO
 >> you have a
 >> little magnifying glass with a light. That solves the
 >> problem.

 >  BM> Maybe.  After surgery, your vision is fuzzy, and nothing sharpens it
 >  BM> except eventual healing.

 >  A scary thing. You've heard of the laser surgery? I
 > found out it
 > isn't effective for all vision problems and even then
 > the effect might
 > not last and is sometimes effected by humidity. Kinda
 > risky!

Yes, and I wouldn't even consider it for myself, as I've had eight
conventional surgeries for cataracts, glaucoma, and detachments.

 > BTW they should but don't tell you that photochomatic
 > lenses lose
 > their tinting in sunlight powers after bout 2 years.
 > :( I found some
 > clip on sunglasses though that fit my lenses. Yet I'm
 > kinda peeved
 > about not having been told the extra expense of the
 > photochromatic
 > effect wouldn't last.

Yes, I saw your message on the subject awhile back.  I tried them many
years ago, but didn't like them, as they were too slow to darken and too
slow to lighten.  Maybe they're faster, now.

 > .....................

 >> trouble to even do
 >> email with me. So... hmm. Pffft.

 >> They only think of THEIR discomfort as if....

 >  BM> If your problem is hereditary, they may have an unpleasant surprise
 >  BM> waiting for them.

 >  Yes it is and so far nobody else has been afflicted
 > but ohhh I can
 > just 'hear' it when it does. They'll come telling me
 > all about what
 > I've already been telling them for years...

Yep.  And depending on the type of disease, it might skip a generation and
show up, if it's going to, in their offspring, instead.

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