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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:50:39 -0800
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From: Carl Cook 
Subject: RE: Non chatty group/Barbara
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I just sent the address, and thanks!

It's just amazing that you are getting into road kill as a subject. Most 
folks find the subject less then appealing, but there are more then a few 
that are really drawn to it.

Have you ever studied the work of Joel Peter-Witkin? His stuff is very 
controversial, very weird, make that VERY weird. I would love to have one 
of his books, but they are pretty expensive.

I love your phrase, sometimes you don't need to Photoshop pictures!  Heck, 
folks did without for -- how many years? :) A good darkroom person can do 
most of what Photoshop does anyway.

I will say, though, that burning and dodging is so much more precise in 
Photoshop -- and if it doesn't look good,you can always delete and start over!

I get pretty bummed out when I shoot dead critters on the road, though last 
year, I went as far as dragging a dead raccoon to my wife's back yard,too 
the head and buried the rest -- with a proper ceremony. Unfortunately, i 
left the head in the small cage back in the woods too long, and with some 
strong rains, it -- melted, I guess, because it was gone!

A biologist once commented on my black bear skull, wondering why the lower 
canines seem to come further forward then the uppers, yet the mandible 
looks as if it is placed correctly. Don't ask me. The skull washed up into 
someone's yard after a flood. They lived near a river. I traded a 
photograph for it.  Judging from the wear of the teeth, the skull appears 
to have come from an older animal. Maybe it got lucky and died of old age.

Have fun shooting!

Carl

At 01:18 PM 3/25/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Carl? Is that you??? (chuckle)
>
>Thanks for all the wonderful things you wrote about my work! I'm
>ecstatic!!!!
>
>Of course I can send a print of the leaves! If you want you can email me off
>list with your address. It'll just be a print though, no mat. Probably be
>pricey to mail a 16x20. After you get the print and would like to send me
>one feel free to do so! I would love a print from you!
>
>The fungus was growing on the side of a tree in Fayetteville last October. I
>don't know what kind it is either, but I thought it was real pretty. The
>other pictures (graveyard and bicyclist) are from this past weekend in
>Fayetteville from digital camera. I took four rolls of B&W / 120 film and 3
>rolls of color slides...and then filled a couple of 256 cards with digital.
>I should be getting those rolls back maybe tomorrow. I can't wait! The
>bluebonnets are out. The barns look old. What a great weekend!
>
>Okay, I'll post the road kill as I get it. It will be my portfolio for the
>portfolio review that the camera club has later in the year. I'll try
>posting it in a separate folder in my folder. So, the people that don't want
>to see will be forwarned if they read the title. I'll write a description
>too. To give viewers a chance to decide not to look. I'd like to post
>different adaptations of it to try to figure out in my mind how I want to do
>it. Right now I can't get past just the straight shot. That may be what I
>end up with. Sometimes you just don't need to Photoshop pictures.
>
>I hope my emotions come across in these pictures. My first, a cat, really
>depressed me. The second, the dog I mentioned, was a bit of fascination and
>then sadness when I finally figured out what it was. I could probably write
>a page on each image! As promised there were dead ones on roads this past
>weekend (armadillo, opossum, squirrel and skunk) but I did not stop for any
>of them. They were too far gone. If that makes any sense. I guess I'm aiming
>for the red blood ones. (not actually aiming for 'em - Other people do that!
>- although I did manage to wipe out three kittens that crawled up under my
>car to stay warm three years ago or so.)
>
>I never would have thought of doing their skeletons. I get strange looks as
>it is just taking the picture on site. The dog would have been to big to put
>in a box or garbage bag....and I'd need a shovel. I imagine most of his
>bones were broken. Skull was nonexistant. Only the back end remained. That
>dog must have done some damage to whatever hit it...unless 18
>wheeler...actually now that I think of it, there is an 18 wheeler parking
>lot across the street! (Talking about it is my therapy)
>
>My mom had a bat fly into her front grill too. It was three or four years
>ago. I saw it and initally thought it was still alive and struggling to get
>out...but it was just the wind. It's an odd feeling. You wish they made it,
>that they survived. But, then if they are in pain then you hope that death
>happens fast. I saw a bird go slowly (or so it seemed, when things go in
>slow motion). I saw the car hit it. Then the bird flopped around and
>squawked. I swear it looked right at me while it squawked. It seemed to be
>cursing me, but it wasn't my car that did it. You can just tell it was in so
>much pain! I was in a lane next to it when it happened. I considered backing
>up and moving into the next lane or going around the block to smush it to
>put it out of it's misery. I considered trying to catch it somehow and
>taking it to a vet. I wasn't stronge enough though and drove away crying.
>Cars were coming from behind anyhow, so I just assume that one of them got
>it. I'm sure it has angel wings now. (more therapy)
>I had tried to save a cat once when it flopped around, but when they flop,
>it's not a good sign. He was dead before I could run across the lawn. I
>guess I figured the same thing would happen to the bird.
>
>Boy did my mood swing from one extreme to the other in one email!
>
>I've seen the skeletons on your website before. It was a long time ago
>though (last year???) so it was neat to see them again.
>
>I see other people have posted pictures recently as well, so I'm gonna look
>at 'em when the engineer that sits behind me goes home for the day. (grin)
>
>
>Barbara
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carl Cook [mailto:clcook{at}olywa.net]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:14 PM
>To: photo{at}fanciful.org
>Subject: Re: Non chatty group/Barbara
>
>
>It was fun hearing fro you again -- it's been a long time!
>
>Please post your new road kill collection! I have stopped and
>shot similar
>things, but have only actually printed one, that of a dead raven, and a
>recent shot of a pair of ravens with a road kill raccoon.
>Sometimes it's
>fun to cut of the head so you can extract the skull for later
>photography.
>Last summer, a poor little bat with sonar problems smacked the
>front of my
>wife's car. I peeled it off and placed the body on a 2x4 in the
>garage and
>left it for a few months.
>
>The skull can be seen at the bottom of my skull page
>
>The actual size of the skull is teeny tiny. The teeth are translucent.
>
>Original in color, shot on digital with a 105 macro attached to
>a bellows,
>lit by strobe.
>
>http://www.clcookphoto.com/skulls.htm
>
>
>Did I write of this in this forum before, or am I experiencing
>an episode
>of deja-vu all over again?
>
>Glad you like the wedding photo. I didn't know if I should show
>it to the
>bride as she and her husband are pretty straight. I did give
>her a print of
>the shot, and she didn't know what to think. But I guess the
>rest of the
>shots, pretty "normal" wedding stuff (shudder) made it OK with her.
>Sure, I'll do your wedding -- chuckle quiver. :)
>
>Just saw your new postings --
>
>Love the daffodil shot and the yellow cast to the whole thing. Like the
>secondary soft focus grouping the rear too. Nice balance. The
>yellow frame
>is a nice touch for presentation as well.
>
>Great fungus shot! Were they in a cave? I love the color. Just tried to
>find them in my mushroom book, but no luck. I can never find any of the
>mushrooms in a book that I've tried to identify. Vey nice photo.
>
>Also really like the bike rider. Nice motion study.
>
>Ooh Ooh! The purplish leaves! Stunning beyond belief! Would you
>consider
>making a digital print trade for something?  I really like this one!
>
>Perfect self portrait! You have such a big eye! :)
>
>I like your graveyard photo. I can almost feel the heat of the
>day and the
>lonesome wind whistling thorough the iron fence and the tree in the
>background. Sergio Leone would be proud. -
>
>Nice work all around. Post more as you can -- !
>
>carl
>
>
>
>e-mail: clcook{at}olywa.net
>http://www.clcookphoto.com
>
>
>
>
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