BL> I have just realised what Telix is: a pretty face and bugger
 BL> all else. I've got my VB dialler working, and all I need to
 BL> write a VB Telix is ZModem and a user interface. This is
 BL> pathetic! I suddenly understand why VB has people quacking like
 BL> ducks... most of these bloody programs are just a pretty face.

 BV> We've had a win have we Bob ? :)

  Another cognition.

 BL> I found a funny example of VB gone made this morning...

 BV> There are lots of them Bob. This is what I think David is
 BV> leaning towards with his thread in AVT. The silly part is that
 BV> he is right but nobody will give him a go. It is much easier to
 BV> knock him down but in reality, David is where the _real_ market
 BV> is at.

  Are you talking about Windows v DOS - a mouse v. keyboard?

 BV> He doesn't sit in an ivory tower with 7,958 other people
 BV> working for a corporation which doesn't really need you to do
 BV> anything. He is working with people who are employed by small
 BV> companies with 5 to 10 PC's and every second you fuck around
 BV> actually costs them money.

  I worked for one such company, and although computers were huge
time-wasters, they still did it quicker. I was writing circuit on
AutoCad rather than use a piece of paper, but the advantage was that I
could then send it to Hong Kong as draftsman quality they could
include in their documetnation as it was. When I made a change it was
very fast to update the whole thing.

  I don't think your seconds are important at all... unless you mean
for data entry and repetitive tasks. The gain in computers is in what
is possible with the new ways, not the time wasted stuffing around.

 BV> This is why most businesses still use DOS applications. Another
 BV> silly thing is that these same people then go home and start
 BV> Windoze on their PC's at home. Then they wonder why their home
 BV> machine crashes all the time.

  Why is your Windows crashing all the time? I can't remember the last
time mine did! I use Windows because it has better crash recovery than
DOS! I even run Borland C++ out of Windows. In  DOS, if it crashes you
have ot reboot to get oout. In  Windows, you can often get it back,
and if you do have ot junk it, the odds are that the rest of the
Windows programs running will still be there.

  Of course, I junk any programs that are flakey under Windows.

 BL> There is a disc-copy program called QCopy written by a German
 BL> bastard named Feldmuller (obviously an ex-member of the SS). It
 BL> is a little ripper! It'll copy anything to anything, across
 BL> formats, and it only copies the used parts of discs, nealty
 BL> apcking it all up on the new disc. It's so fast I use it to
 BL> compress floppies.

 BV> Can you make me a copy please :)

  Is that a joke, or do you really want it?

  Oh, shit! Now I'll have to learn how to use that automatic proggie
Paul wants us to use. Sigh. Okay...

 BV> ROFL...It's a problem. Meanwhile Paul is pissing his money up
 BV> against the wall in rubber.

  I have this strange image of Paul with a condom....

 BV> If he was smart he would have been pumping all his money into
 BV> Seagate and then taken up VB programming :)

  (chuckle) I've been judging Windows programs by their size. There
was one the other day - a File Manager enhancer that is just a simple
dll as far as I could see with File Manager itself doing all the
work... 500K! And to really cap it off, it was crippleware with one of
those clever time limits that stuffs your computer when it runs out.
Jesus! Thew world is full of dickheads who write simpler shit than I
am doing as a raw beginner, and then think they're geniuses.

  I can see a real future in do-it-yourself shareware. You write it
yourself to suit yourself, and you don't share it with anyone!

Regards,
Bob
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