Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 RS> "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer"  wrote in
 RS> news:20033$MATZDOBRE{at}JamNNTPd:

 TR>>>> Hussein Obama started his political life in the kitchen of a
 EH>>   violent TR>> radical, and has been in politics ever since.

 RS>>> A *FORMER* violent radical, who gave up his terrorism, unlike
 EH>>   McCain's RS> old buddy G. Gordon Liddy.

 EH>> No, he did NOT give up anything. He hid out from the law until they

 RS> WRONG. He was indicted, but the evidence was found to be illegally
 RS> obtained..

 RS> "In 1973, new information came to light about FBI operations targeted
 RS> against Weather Underground and the New Left, all part of a series of
 RS> covert and often illegal FBI projects called COINTEL. [20] Due to the
 RS> illegal tactics of FBI agents involved with the program, government
 RS> attorneys requested all weapons- and bomb-related charges be dropped
 RS> against the Weather Underground, including charges against Ayers."

 EH>> lost interest and then went into politics. In an interview held after
 EH>> 9-11, Ayres said he was sorry he didn't do more terrorism.

 RS> More right-wing bullshit.

 RS> "In the ensuing years, Ayers has repeatedly avowed that when he said he
 RS> had "no regrets" and that "we didn't do enough"
he was speaking only in
 RS> reference to his efforts to stop the United States from waging the
 RS> Vietnam War, efforts which he has described as ". . . inadequate [as]
 RS> the war dragged on for a decade."

 RS> Now how does this all tie in to Obama? It doesn't, stupid.

Bill Ayres befriended Obama and launched Obama's political career in his
kitchen by convincing him to run for state office.

 RS> http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

A left-wing couple who have (yes snopes is run by a couple who admit they
are Democrats and no one else) convinced enough idiots to think they have
all the truth.

 EH>> G. Gordon Liddy paid his debt to society for his crimes, none of which
 EH>> could be referred to as terrorist.

 RS> HAR!
 RS> Liddy got off lightly thanks to Jimm the Peanut.

That dang right-wing Carter!

 RS> "In 1971, after serving in several positions in the Nixon
 RS> administration, Liddy was moved to Nixon's 1972 campaign, the Committee
 RS> to Re-elect the President (officially known as "CRP" but
to opponents
 RS> known as CREEP), in order to extend the scope and reach of the White
 RS> House "Plumbers" unit, which had been created in response
to various
 RS> damaging leaks of information to the press. At CRP Liddy concocted
 RS> several plots, some far-fetched, intended to embarrass the Democratic
 RS> opposition.[4] These included kidnapping anti-war protest organizers and
 RS> transporting them to Mexico during the Republican National Convention
 RS> (which at the time was planned for San Diego), as well as luring mid-
 RS> level Democratic campaign officials to a house boat in Baltimore where
 RS> they would be secretly photographed in compromising positions with
 RS> prostitutes. Most of Liddy's ideas were rejected by Attorney General
 RS> John N. Mitchell, but a few were given the go-ahead by Nixon
 RS> Administration officials, including the break-in at Daniel Ellsberg's
 RS> psychiatrist's office in Los Angeles. Ellsberg had leaked the Pentagon
 RS> Papers to the New York Times.[5] At some point, Liddy was instructed to
 RS> break into the Democratic National Committee offices in the Watergate
 RS> Hotel."

 RS> "Liddy was the Nixon Administration liaison and leader of the group of
 RS> five men who broke into the headquarters of the Democratic National
 RS> Committee at the Watergate Complex with the intent to plant listening
 RS> devices.[6] Liddy did not participate in the break-in himself, insomuch
 RS> as he did not actually enter the Watergate Complex, rather, he admitted
 RS> to supervising the break-in from another hotel across the street."

 RS> "For his crime, which he coordinated with E. Howard Hunt, Liddy was
 RS> convicted of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping. Liddy was
 RS> sentenced to a 20-year prison term and was ordered to pay $40,000 in
 RS> fines. He began serving the sentence on January 30, 1973. On April 12,
 RS> 1977, President Jimmy Carter commuted Liddy's sentence to eight years,
 RS> "in the interest of equity and fairness based on a comparison of Mr.
 RS> Liddy's sentence with those of all others convicted in Watergate related
 RS> prosecutions", leaving the fine in effect.[7] Carter's commutation made
 RS> Liddy eligible for parole as of July 9, 1977. Liddy was released on
 RS> September 7, 1977 having served a total of four-and-a-half years of
 RS> actual incarceration."

 RS> These are Liddy's actual quotes:

What part of "serving his debt to society" eludes you?

 RS> August 26, 1994 - Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
 RS> comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go
 RS> for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests." ...
 RS> "They've got a big target on there, ATF. Don't shoot at that, because
 RS> they've got a vest on underneath that. Head shots, head shots.... Kill
 RS> the sons of bitches.

And?

 RS> September 15, 1994 - If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
 RS> insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they're
 RS> wearing flak jackets and you're better off shooting for the head.

Ho hum...

 RS> Now who's "Palling around with terrorists?"

You consider mere rhetoric terrorist as opposed to actual actions? Ayres
actually carried out terrorist activities, Liddy did nothing of the sort.

It's quite telling that you would defend Bill Ayres.

 RS>>>>> After he leaves office, will he stay in politics,
even as just
 EH>>   a TR>> political RS>commentator?

 RS>>> You chopped off my next sentence, which is typical for you.

 EH>> The next sentence doesn't make you point any further. You are an
 EH>> idiot.

 RS> Wrong, asshole. I was wondering what Obama would be doing after he
 RS> leaves the White House.

Which doesn't make a point, but merely shows how much of a moron you are.

 RS> He could do like Bush said, "I'll give some speeches, just to replenish
 RS> the ol' coffers."

All former presidents give speeches for money, you moron. Obama will be no different.

 TR>>>> Its not a surprise that pretty much all radicals tend to gyrate
 EH>>   to the TR>> democrat party. Thats their natural home.


 RS>>> And by the same logic, all radical anti-government neo-Nazis and
 EH>>   guys RS> like Charles Dyer gyrate to the GOP.

 EH>> Huh?

 RS> http://www.duncanbanner.com/local/local_story_014002033.html

Your point? Are you trying to claim that Republicans are child molesters?
Where did it say in that story that Dyer was a Republican? All I read was
that he was a former Marine.

 TR>>>> "It is said that great men often stand upon the shoulders of
 EH>>   giants, TR>> but Obama is a first----a man who has ridden to
 EH>>   greatness on the TR>> shoulders of an army of fawning
dwarves----"
 EH>>   ........Columnist Mac TR>> Johnson

 RS>>> A far-right bullshit writer and hack, who has a column at a
 EH>>   far-right RS> bullshit web site, and gets praised by far-right
 EH>>   rabble-rousing RS> assholes.

 EH>> Uh... you hang out on a far-left web forum and quote as evidence to
 EH>> back up your inanity far-left blogs and websites.

 RS> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Events

http://www.democraticunderground.com http://www.crooksandliars.com
http://www.mediamatters.com http://fromtheleft.wordpress.com

Ed

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