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Hello Mike! In a message written on Friday May 26 1995, Mike Bilow insanely babbles to Paul Sidorsky: MB> Available here for FReq or download: MB> ZENDISK1.ZIP 57K 2-14-90 Listings from 'Zen of Assembly Language', #1 MB> ZENDISK2.ZIP 96K 2-14-90 Listings from 'Zen of Assembly Language', #2 Great. Now if I could only fully read assembler. :-) MB> Abrash has a couple of successor books in print, "Zen of Code MB> Optimization" is noteworthy. I got a clip from this book in PowerPC News, it looks nice. MB> I am surprised to hear that "Zen of Assembly Language" is O.P., since MB> it is without question the finest book on 80x86 assembly language MB> ever written. I know that it sold badly, probably under 10,000 MB> copies, but is the definitive classic in its field. True. It's been highly recommended to be my a number of people. MB> Anyone looking for second-hand technical books should start with MB> Books From Bree, 6716 Clybourn Avenue, Unit 153, North Hollywood, CA MB> 91606; e-mail to . I'll jot this down. I hope they take Canadian orders. :-) MB> I was quite surprised to see that Abrash headed the graphics team for MB> a while on the Windows NT project. His involvement is probably the MB> only reason the code works at all. :) Now he's working for id on their QUAKE project. _That_ will be interesting to see. MB> Abrash is interested in relative timing in order to compare the speed of MB> approaches when actually implemented in real code. If you need MB> millisecond accuracy in absolute terms, his techniques may not be what you MB> want. As long as I can break out of a loop after approximately so many milliseconds, I'll be happy. I know I could fake this by just using clock() calls (especially in BC-OS/2 where it's define as 1000) but I want better accuracy than that. I have a timer routine (for DOS) from SWAGS, the Pascal snippets collection, so I just need to convert that over to C. Would be nice to know how to design my own though, especially if I need one for OS/2, since I'm not sure the same technique will work. MB> Well, I do a lot of OS/2 device driver work, and you would be far better MB> off trying to deal with timing from inside a device driver. There are MB> actually a lot of undocumented techniques that can be used inside OS/2, MB> even from application level, to get very accurate timings, but you need to MB> buy something like System Performance Monitor for OS/2 (SPM/2). Hmmm... well, if learning device driver work will help me out, then, damnit, that's what I'll do. But not right now. :-) MB> Note also that CPUs may have undocumented features that allow careful MB> performance measurement with little uncertainty. For example, the Pentium MB> has an undocumented register that functions as a 64-bit absolute clock. MB> An explanation of some of these features is available in the excellent MB> book "The Undocumented PC" by Frank van Gilluwe. Argh! No more books! I need a loan for all these books already! :-) MB> These API calls measure CPU time, not absolute time. Although there are MB> API calls which use absolute time, such as DosTimerStart(), no documented MB> API call provides resolution better than the system scheduler, 31 ms. Ahh. Man, this is a disilliusioning conversation. I always thought accurate timing would be easy for CPUs this fast. -- PaulS --- FMail/386 1.0g* Origin: C.R.I.S.I.S. HQ, Calgary AB, (403)686-0449, 28800 V.FC (1:134/31) SEEN-BY: 105/42 620/243 711/401 409 410 413 430 807 808 809 934 955 712/407 SEEN-BY: 712/515 628 704 713/888 800/1 7877/2809 @PATH: 134/31 17 3615/50 396/1 270/101 105/103 42 712/515 711/808 809 934 |
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