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to: andrew clarke
from: Russell Tiedt
date: 2003-02-06 17:22:48
subject: TimEd on Linux?

Hello andrew.

06 Feb 03 07:40, you wrote to me:

 RT>> Downloaded the sources from your site fot TimEd, and from the
 RT>> quick look I  had time to give the sources, there is no indication
 RT>> of whether it will build  on Linux or not.

 ac> I've only tested it in FreeBSD and Cygwin, but it _should_ port to
 ac> Linux if you edit the makefile to use -lsmapilnx instead of -lsmapibsd
 ac> (it requires smapi-2.3; I haven't tried linking it with xmsgapi yet,
 ac> but I should :)).

Hmm ... okay, as soon as I have time, I will give it a bash, must first also 
download smapi-2.3 as I think the last version I have is 2.0 and will get 
xmsgapi as well.

 RT>> Currently have a Debian 3.0, Mandrake 9.0 and a highly customized
 RT>> e-smith  4.0, based on RedHat 6.1 to try compiling on.

 RT>> Used to use TimEd when I ran onDOS and then on OS/2, then MsgEd
 RT>> with the  Husky utils on Linux, then changed to MBSE BBS which
 RT>> uses JAM bases,

 ac> I had a quick test of JAM support in the timEd/Unix port before, and
 ac> it seemed to partly work, but I still ended up with a few segfaults,
 ac> notably after deleting messages, so I wouldn't recommend it.  It may
 ac> be alright just as a reader, but you would still be risking corrupting
 ac> your message base, so I wouldn't really recommend that either.  It
 ac> looks as though these bugs are probably in the (unfinished) SMAPI JAM
 ac> code, which I may or may not fix, depending on whether I have time,
 ac> and whether somebody beats me to it (or already has!).

Well a lot of the people using MBSE BBS, use GoldEd or GoldEd+ simply because 
it supports the JAM msgbase format, and MsgEd and TimEd don't on Linux, My 
personal prefrence for sysop editors would be TimEd, then MsgEd and third 
GoldEd+, most of thses folks would rather use MsgEd or TimEd than GoldEd as a 
msgbase editor.

When I left school (1980) the single item I wanted most badly was an IBM 
clone XT, and it was eigth or nine years later that I bought my first 
computer, and could not afford a compliler, and quit playing with basic as 
soon as I recocnised it's limitations. Now I don't have the time to learn to 
program, tho if I manage to find a book on programming in C/C++ that I can 
afford to buy, I might learn some C/C++ to better understand how to compile 
and understand the things one can do with the Linux/FreeBSD compilers.

Not that I have much problems compiling the programs I have had to compile so 
far, and have proved lucky at guessing what various "error" msgs. mean and 
managed to find/fix missing libraries and paths. So I am not likely to be the 
one to fix the JAM code in smapi. :-((

 RT>> and current MsgED does not compile on my main system the e-smith
 RT>> 4.0 box. :-((

 ac> Strange - unless you mean the current version in the CVS hosted by
 ac> SourceForge (?).

No, MsgEd ver. 6.0&1, seems the system needs newer libraries and I am not 
going to even attempt upgrading them.

Russell

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