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echo: coffee_klatsch
to: Bjrn Forsstrm
from: Jeff Smith
date: 2006-11-24 11:55:44
subject: Twins

Hello Bj”rn.

24 Nov 06 09:02, you wrote to me:

 JS>>>>      But what is "normal"? How many people
does it take to
 JS>>>> decide what "normal" is? In this scenario the
twins didn't have
 JS>>>> a say in the color of their skin. Actually they are who they
 JS>>>> are and not what they are. Maybe I am abbynormal but I try to
 JS>>>> look beyond a person's color or nationality. Good and bad comes
 JS>>>> in all colors.

 BF>>> Sure but since it only happends once in a million it can't be
 BF>>> counted as normal.

 JS>>      That is the problem. People look at someone, see a
 JS>> difference and then automatically consider that difference as an
 JS>> abnormality.

 BF> I was thinking that that special birth wasn't normal, I don't have a
 BF> problem with the result.


     Any birth where the baby(s) and the mother are both alive and well
is a good and some might consider a normal birth. What differences the
baby(s) may have or what color they are is secondary. What handicap
they may have is also secondary. True, these are all matters that have
to be dealt with as time passes but the birth itself might be considered normal.

 BF>>> I heard on the news that female soldiers still, right now, are
 BF>>> being discriminated by the boys. One had a boys genitals in her
 BF>>> face when she woke up. Will stupidity never end?

 JS>>     Not in our lifetime. It's too easy to think of one's self and
 JS>> and not others. To equate normality with thyself and consider
 JS>> anyone that deviates from that percieved norm as deficient in
 JS>> some way.

 BF> mmmm.....


      In other words "Normal" is a reletive term that may mean
ten different
things to ten different people. The way the female soldier was treated was
wrong. Such an action only shows that the perpetrators were insecure and
afraid of the female soldier. Instead of respecting her as a soldier and not
as a female soldier they have to resort to childish behavior.


 BF>>> I have worked with several immigrants and have never had any bad
 BF>>> experience either.

 JS>>      I think it depends on how one looks at others. If one looks
 JS>> at someone. What do they see first? Color? Race? Nationality?
 JS>> Gender? Handicap? The problem will exist until we can see who
 JS>> they are instead of what they are or what they look like.

 BF> The first I see is a co-worker with whom I have to get the job done
 BF> with and if it all works out fine there isn't any problems with it.


     We are after all only human. We are bound to notice things about people.
Things we like, things we may not like, appearance, Etc. What matters is how
and if we express any judgement or opinion of what we see or like to that
individual.


 BF> ---

Jeff

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