Cindy Haglund wrote to James Bradley, "Pointly pointed points" on 07-18-05
15:31

 JB> I'm firmly in your camp with this one, for another reason I hadn't
 JB> thought about. To add delete echoes, you'd have to bother the sysop to
 JB> forward them or not, wouldn't you?

 CH> Wow. I never thought of that either! ANother plus for a point. To add

 JB> HUH?

 CH> I meant how when I want to add an echo I don't have to
 CH> bother the sysop. That is to ask him or her (rather than go
 CH> look as it's easier to make him/her do the work heh haha)- if he or
 CH> she actually carries a particular echo. Some set ups are hard to
 CH> navigate and you ultimately need the sysops' help.

It was that I was referring to. A sysop always has to work to set up a
 sub-node. If you can request and drop echoes to your point, that is a
 new feature since I have seen it. If a person calls as any user, they
 can - as always - tag or drop echoes with a call in to toggle
 anything. As the board to call here, is also the NEC's, there's
 paltry he doesn't carry, and he's *very* hospitable to turning things
 on with a simple request.

I don't know what gave you the idea, but a BBS is still my preference
 for myself also. I have too many machines on the go at any time, that
 I like to also equip to run fido. Two specifically, are traded off on
 the chore often, so pointing would require me to network those two,
 plus any other coming online. That can *always* be a crap shoot for a
 newly functioning system, as NICs sometimes putter out, or are having
 resource arguments, et al.

 CH> IE: On one system you can be easily confused by the LIST of echos and
 CH> the separate area where you actually SELECT or de select an echo.
 CH> IN that case I had to bother the sysop.

I just bother mine to add echoes to his board. I've only had to
 request one, and I see the Sailor Moon echo is no longer making
 waves, so I can't even bother him to add that. 

He *is* gating newsgroups. I *can* netmail->e-mail, and
 vice-versa... All from Blue-Wave AND Multi-Mail for the Linux/*NIX
 platform... You guys can tie your hands with points all you want, I
 need to stay loosy-goosy here. <-|

 CH> With my point, I don't have to wade through a long list. I just
 CH> areafix for or to delete what I want/don't want. It's just easier. And
 CH> you don't have to worry about whether or not your boos node happens to
 CH> carry a desired echo on his/her system.

You can pass-through, and request echoes the boss doesn't carry?

 CH> One system has a list of echos with numbers. And the screen doesn't
 CH> pause every 24 lines say so you have to write the numbers down and
 CH> then put them to add/delete where the prompt finally shows up. Ugh!

I know... I was about to ask my guy to make a short list available in
 a file, but the echolist echo, gives me all the info I need, and if I
 see a new echo I haven't tagged that I might want, I can usually
 guess his naming scheme pretty accurately now.

Each way does have its advantages, and I guess I just never needed the
 advantages of pointing. I even started to prefer BW over GoldEd, when
 I was running a board. I was able to catalogue in a way that shot
 EVERYTHING available at the time *clear* out of the water.

 CH> ..................

 CH> You can do the add delete in qwk door too but on some boards it's
 CH> tricky.

And the only real trouble with BW and Y2K was with running it through
 the QWK door. It's really a shame more don't run the BW door, as I've
 heard there is a very small issue with SQUISH if that is your message
 base, and I think the rest of the basses run just fine or vice
 versa. It's reported to be a minor issue either way. /-:

 JB> The BW door was SWEET! No passwords, but what you log on as. In your
 JB> upload zip, it would toggle on or off as you wished... FILE REQUEST
 JB> FILES... It *was* sweet!

 CH>  I did like that BW! :) It was easy! And your OLMR list had ONLY the
 CH> echos you selected.d With SLMR you have the entire kit and kaboodle
 CH> there with the selected echos 'marked'. Just a nuisance.

/-:
 CH> ...........

 JB> I have no doubt this ppoint you use has come a LONG way to poinitn as

 CH>  It's probably not the latest, but it works for me. :) Frank Vest
 CH> bless his heart, got me set up with it. *Had some troubles but worked
 CH> them all through). Now I'm with Jack Yates and he helped me alter what
 CH> needed altering. We both survived! :) Frank had inspired my needed
 CH> confidence and patience that Jack expected and well ... demanded. :)

It's all just a series of steps either way. Like anything I expect.

 CH> ..................

 JB> I knew it. We'd have to manually edit the 'allow' file, with the
 JB> points preference, then turn on and off echoes as they wished from the
 JB> sysop console... It was totally laborious!

 CH>  I've no idea what the boss node has to go through at their end. Only
 CH> mine. I'm grateful for the service.

There was a point who would pole me for a bit. There were two or three
files to edit, and the syntax had to match, and vary in the right
places. Get it right, it just worked. Get one character wrong, and it
wouldn't. It's one thing I've never gotten used to to this day. When I
try to manually type in my USB UPS, I never get much further than
recognizing the gibberish the power supply issues, and nothing further
comes of it. I can pull the plug on the power, and the battery drains,
and it won't even faze the OS that it should shut down. 

Maybe I just show my obstinacy, but I refuse to take 'no' as a valid
answer. Maybe that's my strength, but it can also be my weakness. I
just want to make sure it's not my undoing. 

 CH> Cindy

 CH> ... I'm just moving clouds today; tomorrow I'll try mountains

 

 CH> --- PPoint 3.01

A pleasure, as always!


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