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to: Bill Grimsley
from: David Drummond
date: 1995-03-30 17:28:52
subject: MODEMS FOR SALE

* On Mar 30 10:58 Bill Grimsley wrote to Paul Edwards

 BG> as Supras have never been Austel approved, but the Courier DS is, 
 BG> so who's to know that yours was a US model unless you 
 BG> specifically told them?

PE>> I can't even transfer a file to a V.everything modem, I have 
PE>> some serious doubts about the modem.

BG>> From what though, your Spirit?  There's no difference between 
BG>> the Courier and any other modem at 14400, which is V.32bis,
BG>>  nothing at all to do with V.FC or V.34.

PE>> The connect was at 19200.

 BG> V.32terbo.  Only supported by AT&T, USR and Digicom AFAIK.  Big 
 BG> deal.

BG>> Yet you blissfully continue using your Spirit (which still 
BG>> occasionally refuses to negotiate an EC connect).  What makes 
BG>> you think that the BIT 

PE>> At least it works most of the time.  All I got from the 
PE>> courier was two transfers drop out.

 BG> Funny, my Sportster and David's Courier work properly all of the 
 BG> time.  Could it be that the one you tried had the earlier ROM 
 BG> code?

BG>> will be any better?  Are they Rockwell-based?  If so, good 
BG>> luck.

PE>> Yes.  And I've had a lot less failures with the Viper, which 
PE>> is also Rockwell based, than I have had with USR Couriers. 

 BG> So how many Couriers have YOU tried then?  I'm not slagging the 
 BG> Viper (hell, I've never even seen one), but the current USR is as 
 BG> reliable a modem as I've ever used, bar none.  Perhaps you should 
 BG> try the latest one?

PE>> And I don't like your suggestion of telling all my callers to 
PE>> enable retrains because I can't do anything about the 
PE>> Courier.  Just the same as I didn't like Dave Hatch's 
PE>> suggestion to tell all my Maestro callers to lock 14400 or 
PE>> something like that when calling my Thunder (when V32terbo 
PE>> was enabled).  I instead preferred to disable V32terbo my 
PE>> end, and was thinking of swapping my modem with someone who 
PE>> has a normal Spirit II.  Try to understand the difference 
PE>> between the two mindsets.  BFN.

 BG> I can appreciate your wish to run approved modems, and even 
 BG> respect your right to do so, but I think you're being a bit too 
 BG> judgmental, as you haven't even given the latest model USR a 
 BG> decent workout.  Anyway, what happens when whatever V.34 you buy 
 BG> turns out to have a bug in it (as it doubtless will)?  Can you 
 BG> update the ROM with downloadable code?  Not if it's a Rockwell, 
 BG> you can't.  Think about future upgradeability for a moment, and 
 BG> you'll then see where I'm coming from, Paul.

Bloody USR zealots . . .

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