In article , anthony@alphageo.com wrote:

> mcculloch@mail.utexas.edu (Jim McCulloch) wrote:
> 
> >How about the astonishing number of rapes resisted with firearms?  I
> >would have to look the figure up, but as I recall it Kleck is obliged
> >to claim an implausibly huge percentage of attempted rapes in this
> >country were resisted with guns.  There is an independent account of
> >the number of attempted rapes, you know, provided courtesy of the
> >NCVS.  The NSPOF survey (which basically used Kleck's methodology),
> >elicited results in which the number of rapes resisted with guns was
> >*greater* than the total number of rapes and attempted rapes reported
> >by the NCVS.  
> 
> Any rational person who successfully fended off an attempted rape in a
> gun-controlled city would not report either the attempt or the DGU.
> In some cities, the police actively discourage _any_ self-defence, and
> being investigated for a possibly illegal DGU is worse than giving up
> the slim chance that a potential rapist gets caught.
> 
> Anthony Argyriou

OK, Anthony, since you seem to represent the paranoid end of the spectrum,
would you answer Kleck's survey about gun use at all? If so, why?  How
would you know his survey is not a ploy by the BATF, or the FBI?  My
argument, if you will remember, is that the paranoid will have weeded
themselves out of Kleck's sample, and hence any false negatives from that
quarter will not be forthcoming.

Best regards,

--Jim McCulloch