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Bob Ackley -> Ed Hulett wrote: BA> Replying to a message of Ed Hulett to Bob Ackley: EH>> Bob Ackley -> Jeff Smith wrote: BA>>> Replying to a message of Jeff Smith to BOB KLAHN: BK>>>>> The fact that Saddam complied BK>>>>> with all Bush's demands, up to the ultimatum, then Bush invaded BK>>>>> anyway. The fact that Bush let OBL escape, as well as Mullah BK>>>>> Omar. JS>>>> Yup, Bush held the door open for OBL to slip out. If you think JS>>>> that Saddam complied then you bought into what he was trying to JS>>>> sell everyone. He wanted people to think that he was complying and JS>>>> I guess some people are still falling for it. BA>>> Even Hans Blix, the fellow who was in charge of those UN inspections BA>>> and was on the ground, in Iraq, at the time. BK>>>>> The selling off of Iraqi property. The dismissal of Garner, who BK>>>>> would have held elections in Iraq much sooner, which very likely BK>>>>> would have short circuited the insurgency. The adamant refusal to BK>>>>> send enough manpower to do the job in Iraq. JS>>>> I would have prefered that the coalition had finished the job JS>>>> in Iraq the last time we were there. BA>>> I would have too. But hindsight is always 20/20. BA>>> [snip] JB>>>>>> What I want is folks to provide facts that Bush has caused JB>>>>>> harm to anyone here with his protection of this country. BK>>>>> 2500 dead American soldiers might count for something. JS>>>> The bravery of American and coalition soldiers comes to mind for me. BA>>> Note that the military, particularly the army, is hemorrhaging BA>>> people, and their recruiting is just barely keeping the numbers up. EH>> This is a lie. Just last month they had record high recruiting EH>> numbers. There are soldiers requesting second and third tours in EH>> Iraq. BA> Then why is it necessary for so much recruiting advertising on radio BA> (and presumably BA> on television)? The amount of such advertising is up by several orders BA> of magnitude BA> from the level pre-2001. No it isn't. The only recruiting advertisement I see is on the Military Channel. BA> I commented on that years ago. Why is it also BA> necessary BA> for (some) recruiters to 'fudge' recruits' test scores and/or other BA> requirements for enlistment? There have been several accounts of such BA> behavior noted in the not too distant past. You give no evidence to support this claim. BA> Why is it necessary for recruiters to *demand* access to high school BA> campuses and to *demand* information from the schools about high school BA> students who have not contacted them? Because the teachers unions and other left wing organizations want to keep them off the campus. BA> Why is it necessary for recruiters call high school students at home in BA> clear violation of the students' parents' wishes? Good grief. This claim is just too silly to comment on. BA> Why was it necessary for the army to raise the age limit for first recruits from 35 to 42? People are living longer? BA> Why has it been necessary for Rumsfeld to issue 'stop loss' orders BA> to keep people in the service past the expiration of their enlistment BA> contracts? To keep them through their tour of duty. BA> Why is the army calling up so many reservists who thought they were out of the BA> military? If they are a reservist, they _aren't_ out of the military. BA> While they may *claim* record high recruiting numbers I'm sure that's BA> not true - if for no other reason that the numbers for December of 1941 BA> and all of 1942, 1943 and 1944 undoubtedly exceeded them, both in raw BA> numbers and as a percentage of the population. The record recruitment numbers are _since_ WWII, not including WWII. Ed -- Knowledge is proud that he has learned so much; Wisdom is humble that he knows no more. -- William Cowper Linux User#: 416016 Linux Machine#: 323569 --- Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918)* Origin: Veritas Vos Leberabit! (1:123/789.0) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 5030/786 @PATH: 123/789 500 379/1 633/267 |
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