Bob Ackley -> John Massey wrote:


 BA> Replying to a message of John Massey to BOB KLAHN:


 BK>>>   I seem to recall the discussion of a crash. What base, and
 BA> when?   BK>> I don't recall him naming the base, so when would that
 BA> have   been?   BK>> What base?


 JM>> If you care you can look it up. You seem  able to find other past
 JM>> threads that interest you. I do not archive any of the fido
 BA> stuff. I  JM> do remember it was established that no plane, let alone
 BA> an F-15,  JM> crashed at Lackland during the 65 days he was there.


 BA> Lackland didn't have an active runway when I was there in 1963, and I
 BA> seriously doubt that one has been installed since.


I posted that bit of information about five or six years ago. I not
only did some research on lackland at the time, I stumbled over some
people who keep in touch with one another by e-mail, who were former
`Weapons Systems Mechanics' in the air Force; people who are either
retired from the Air Force, or have long-term service in the air Force.


I contacted one of their e-mail `groups', and explained the situation
with Sauer and the claims he's made.


To a man, they say that Sauer cannot possibly have ever worked on an
A-10 Warthog, given a number of factors in his story.


For one thing, with a total of 65 days `in' the Air Force, the time in
the base hospital with his broken ankle and the processing-out
procedure, its unlikely he'd have been transfered to Lowry up in
Colorado where the tech school for that particular MOS would be.


For another, I was told that Lackland had `not' had an active runway
for many years (which caused me to dig further and I learned that the
base next door to Lackland, Kelly, had been closed.


In 1978, when Sauer states he was `in', he could not possibly have ever
seen an F-15 crash at either location.


Further, although there `were' some F-15 crashes in that year...none of
them were anywhere near where Sauer was. The closest I think would have
been in Nevada. There were seven or eight of them that year.


 BA> The adjacent
 BA> Kelly AFB, which did have an active runway, was closed decades ago;
 BA> as was Medina which, like Lackland, did not have a runway.


Exactly.


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