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Subject: Re: [OT] Awesome and funny Tesla car review (link)

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anim8rFSK  wrote:
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>  Your Name  wrote:
> > In article ,
> > anim8rFSK  wrote:
> > > In article ,
> > >  Your Name  wrote:
> > > > In article
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> > > > anim8rFSK  wrote:
> > > > > In article ,
> > > > >  Your Name  wrote:
> > > > > > In article
, Jan Alter
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Delightful.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >     No more oil changes.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't know about that review link, but
electric cars still use
> > > > > > oil to lubricate the various moving parts
(wheel bearings, etc.) 
> > > > > > as well as in the production of much of the
world's electricity. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Most of it's sealed, but you've got battery pack
coolant, brake
> > > > > fluid, 
> > > > > gearbox oil, windshield wiper fluid, whatever it
uses for 'freon' ... 
> > > > > you have to have $600 a year in service from Tesla
where presumably 
> > > > > they'll do all that; of course, there's not a
Tesla dealer within the 
> > > > > car's driving range of me, so that would be a problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone who believes electric cars are a
panacea to the "oil crisis" 
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > the "green revolution" is simply a
blinkered moron.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yeah, they've bought into 'tailpipe emissions' and
don't realize that 
> > > > > as 
> > > > > much or more pollution is being generated, just upstream.
> > > > 
> > > > Also "downstream" in trying to get rid of all
those extra toxic
> > > > batteries. Plus, since the pile of batteries inside them will
> > > > expensively need to be replaced fairly often, most
people will simply
> > > > upgrade to a newer car (one of the real reasons behind
the push), which
> > > > means then also means extra material to be disposed of.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Here in New Zealand, they've just started new electric trains in
> > > > Auckland City (some parts, since not all the lines are
electrified yet)
> > > > and are boasting about how great they are ... except
they have to keep
> > > > the old diesel trains around beacuse when the
electricty goes down the
> > > > only way to then move the stupid new trains is by
towing them with a
> > > > real train. :-\
> > > 
> > > LOL
> > 
> > It would be funny if it wasn't tax-payer money being wasted on buying
> > something like 38 new trains to run on a railway system that only has
> > two lines and a dead-end city centre station with only four platforms.
> > Not to mention that they couldn't run the system they had properly. 
> > :-\
> > 
> > The morons in charge now want to waste piles more money digging an
> > underground "City Loop" line (including buying and compensating
> > affected building owners) that comes out of the dead-end station and
> > goes up under the main city centre street to join in to the existing
> > line back at the top ... this is after having had a free bus service
> > running up and down the main street that was under-used.
> 
> Yeah.  And they try desperately to force you to take the bus to jury 
> duty, 

Ahh, Jury Duty. I did that once and it was a complete waste of a week.
The next time I got my boss to write a letter saying I was
indispensable and couldn't go, the next two times I was self-employed
so couldn't go again.




> and it's just a nightmare - I'd have to take a cab to the bus 
> station!  They really somehow think everybody just lives within easy 
> walking distance of a bus stop.

The problem is compounded in Auckland due to two factors.
Geographically the city is stuck on a narrow strip of land between two
coastlines and two indented harbours. Then there's the citizens who
don't want multi-storey blocks, so the city has and continues to spread
outwards, rather than up. With a population of just over 1 million and
a land area about the same as Greater London, that means the population
density simply can't support a good public transport system.
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