[much quoting]
 JP> BTW, Ghandi also said, (paraphrasing from memory, now) "But the
 JP> greatest crime committed by the British in India was the disarming
 JP> of an entire people, to render them defenseless."
 DA> I wonder if he said that to Hillary.
 PN>  How's this for juxtaposition:
 PN> "In this changing, complex and exciting world with exploding
 PN> expectations, we need to find some common ground. We need people
 PN> and ideas to turn to bind us, and Mahatma Gandhi with his message
 PN> of oneness for mankind is one of them."
 PN> -- Hillary Rodham Clinton, addressing the commemoration of the
 PN>    125th Birth Anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi, 7/14/95, Washington,
 PN> "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history
 PN> will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as
 PN> the blackest."  -- Mahatma Gandhi "Gandhi, An Autobiography",
 PN> M. K. Gandhi, page 446
 PN> "I do believe that where there is a choice only between
 PN> cowardice and violence, I would advise violence."
 PN> Ibid (I've lost the page number on that'n.
... I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and
violence, I would advise violence.  Thus when my eldest son asked me what
he should have done had he been present when I was almost fatally attacked
in 1908 [by an Indian extremist opposed to Gandhi's agreement with Smuts],
whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should
have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defend
me, I told him it was his duty to defend me even by using violence.  Hence
it was I took part in the Boer War, the so-called Zulu Rebellion and the
Great War [World War I].  Hence also do I advocate training in arms for
those who believe in the method of violence.  I would rather have India
resort to arms in order to defend her honor than that she should in a 
cowardly manner become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor.
...
 
Young India, August 11, 1920   cited on page 156-7 of The Essential
Gandhi, by Louis Fischer.
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