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From: marya@netcom.com (wide-eyed wanderer)
Subject: Re: Obenix and Bontril (phendimetrazine)
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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:57:39 GMT
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In article  Brenda Long  
rites:
>Hi everyone!
>
>My doctor will prescribe Obenix or Bontril.
>I looked these up on the web and I found
>that Obenix is another name for phentermine.
>Is this right?  
>What is Bontril?  I found listed as
>phendimetrazine, Anorex, and Adipost.
>Is it similar to the phentermine?
>Has anybody had any luck with these
>drugs?
>
>Thanks!
>Brenda
My medical dictionary doesn't have phenDImetrazine, but under 
phenmetrazine it says:
n. a drug that reduces the appetite and was formerly used in the 
treatment of obesity.  It is administered by mouth and its actions and 
side effects are similar to those of amphetamine. Prolonged use and large 
doses may cause mental depression and dependence. Trade name: Preludin.
It sounds very similar to phentermine, expect that the similarity to 
amphetamine, and the side effects of depression and dependence appear to 
be stronger. At least that's what *I* get from the description. Here's 
the same dictionary's description of phentermine:
n. a sympathomimetic (acts upon the nervous system) drug that suppresses 
the appetite and is used in the treatment of obesity.  It is administered 
by mouth; side effects include dry mouth, nausea, and restlessness, and 
continuted use produces tolerance. Trade name: Ionamin.
I'm home today and CNN is all full of Phen/Fen... stories of 2 women who 
have died from heart conditions... the wife of a Florida politician was 
one of them & her doctor said "may have contributed" to her fatal heart 
attack. The only picture they showed of her looked very thin. Does anyone 
know more about this case? They really aren't giving any data other than 
the stories of these two women, yet their medical expert guy says HE 
thinks everyone, even those being monitored by their regular physician, 
should be taken off until more is known and guidelines can be established.
You know it's really starting to tick me off. Now even CNN is giving no 
data. And WHO decides when they know enough? It's just so silly-- if it 
WEREN'T a dangerous substance that needed to be controlled, it would be 
an OTC drug or a FOOD product. Of course it's dangerous! Of course 
guidelines are needed! What the HELL are prescriptions for anyway?????
If people started abusing insulin because it made them lose weight, would 
they ban insulin????? FUCK. My obesity is a life-threatening condition 
that is GREATLY helped by these medications. I'm so sick of people who 
have 20 lbs to lose RELATING their problem to mine & expecting me to have 
empathy for their needs.
My need is medical. Their need is cosmetic. Vanity, pure & simple.
Fuck off, Jet. If I have to strip you of your right to look like Kate 
Moss in order to protect my right of access to the drugs I need to
survive, you better fucking believe I'll do it. And DAMN 
IT you would too in my situation. And you'd do it louder than anyone else.
Every time a person who is not morbidly obese takes these drugs they 
threaten my right to access. Why is that okay, but it's not okay for me 
to say the drugs should be restricted? Why are your rights more important 
than mine?
- Marya
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