BG> Just like IBM says that OS/2 is usable in 4Mb?  Unless VLB technology
BG> has made a recent quantum leap, 50MHz/0WS is not at all reliable IMO.
BV> Wanna make a bet ?
BG> We'll see.

Yep. We will, won't we.

BV> Patricia's machine is a VLB 80486DX-50 with a caching VLB-IDE
BV> controller and a VLB video card.
BG> Seems that filthy plutocracy must be contageous then.  |-)

Isn't the contagious nature of filthy plutocracy the basic premise
that helps our market driven economy survive and prosper ?

BV> It runs flat-strap at 50Mhz with 0 wait states and it has done so
BV> flawlessly for about 1.5-2 years. You do have to hand select the boards,
BV> but you can do it and still have reliability.
BG> No, perhaps YOU can do it, but the average person just doesn't have
BG> the time or resources (nor indeed even the inclination) to keep running
BG> back and forth to his dealer until he finds VLB cards which will run
BG> happily at 50MHz.

I'd hate to be perceived as a nit picking pedantic bastard, but I
must correct you. You clearly stated that 50Mhz/0WS VLB operation
was not reliable. I was merely offering my experience in the hope
that it may assist you in dispelling your unfounded belief.

BG> Sure, there are indeed some VLB cards which don't mind that speed,
BG> but the bottom line is that most still don't, and you may even end
BG> up having to use brands or chipsets that you normally would rather not.

Perhaps, although I don't feel that this is the case at all. I have
found that the best way to ensure reliability (regardless as to bus
or CPU speed) is to pay a bit more for the quality components which
are purchased from well known sources. If you feel that you don't
wish to pay any more for quality components, brands, or chipsets,
and are prepared to accept lower levels of quality and performance
as the trade-off, then that is your prerogative.

As an aside; Regardless as to the knowledge being offered by Mr. Speed
(or his wolf) Intel have never and will never manufacture an 80486 CPU
which will run 100Mhz internally whilst being driven by a 50Mhz clock.
If you have any doubt as to the validity of this, I suggest you call
either Intel Australia or their distributor NJS and enquire as to
the part number, price and availability of the device.

Regards, Brenton
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