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to: Neil Walker
from: Jasen Betts
date: 2002-07-08 07:39:12
subject: proposed new nodelist [2]

Hi Neil.

06-Jul-02 22:12:10, Neil Walker wrote to Frank Vest


 NW> Hello Frank!

 NW> Saturday July 06 2002 14:40, you wrote to mark lewis:

 FV>> At any rate, to use my listing as an example (maybe a poor example,
 FV>> but...)

 NW> Yes, a very poor example. :-(

 FV>> ,6308,Collin_County_Station,McKinney_TX,Frank_Vest,1-972-562-8064 //
 FV>> ,33600,CM,XA,V34,V42b,

 NW>       ^^^^^
 NW> That isn't a valid value. :-(

 FV>> IBN:web-idiot.d2g.com,URVIA:1:3830/9

 NW>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 NW> Nor is that. The IBN flag can only be followed by a port number. I wanted 
 NW> such 
 NW> an entry but wasn't allowed it by Ward. :-

 FV>> I could probably drop the V32,V42b, stuff. I'll admit that this isn't
 FV>> a lot, but could make some difference.

 NW> Errr....possibly.

 FV>> As is now, the allowed flags are, in part:

 FV>> ;S          V21       CCITT V.21     300 bps   full duplex
 FV>> ;S          V22       CCITT V.22     1200 bps  full duplex
 FV>> ;S          V29       CCITT V.29     9600 bps  half duplex
 FV>> ;S          V32       CCITT V.32     9600 bps  full duplex
 FV>> ;S          V32b      ITU-T V.32 bis 14400 bps full duplex
 FV>> ;S          V32T      V.32 Terbo
 FV>> ;S          V33       CCITT V.33
 FV>> ;S          V34       CCITT V.34
 FV>> ;S          HST       USR Courier HST
 FV>> ;S          H14       USR Courier HST 14.4
 FV>> ;S          H16       USR Courier HST 16.8
 FV>> ;S          H96       Hayes V9600
 FV>> ;S          MAX       Microcom AX/96xx series
 FV>> ;S          PEP       Packet Ensemble Protocol
 FV>> ;S          CSP       Compucom Speedmodem
 FV>> ;S          ZYX       Zyxel series
 FV>> ;S          VFC       V.Fast Class
 FV>> ;S          Z19       Zyxel 19,200 modem protocol
 FV>> ;S          V90C      ITU-T V.90 modem Client
 FV>> ;S          V90S      ITU-T V.90 Server.
 FV>> ;S          X2C       US Robotics x2 client.
 FV>> ;S          X2S       US Robotics x2 server.

 FV>> How many of these are really needed?

 NW> Nearly all of them. ;-)

 Are there nodes still using HST or Compucom modems?
 how much would be lost by reducing all that to a single field listing the
 max throughput using a CCITT protocol. allow 'e' notation eg (5.6e4 for
 56000) so the field doesn't grow too much in case modems suddenly get
 really fast. programmers can use floating point.

 NW> POTS should always be accomodated - that's the basis of Fidonet. We
 NW> should, however, give due regard to how new technology can be
 NW> incorporated. It's time for a new nodelist structure

yeah...

 -=> Bye <=-
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