KW> -=> Mocking Luther Kolb to Rod Fewster <=-
 KW>    
 KW> LK> Wouldn't the smart thing be for AVP's investigative team to put
 KW> extra
 KW> LK> effort into getting the Wild List cert AND keeping up the overall
 KW> LK> detection ?
 KW> certainly it would... and eugene (to the best of my
 KW> knowledge) is a caro
 KW> member, and all caro members trust each other (otherwise
 KW> they couldn't
 KW> get into caro) so i'm not sure why eugene doesn't have
 KW> hands on access
 KW> to those wildlist viruses...
There's no sane explanation for what happens with those CARO buggers.  The 
latest AVP has detection for Red Team, a REAL "EMail virus" transported by 
Eudora email messages.  Red Team isn't in the Wild List (it's not even in the 
wild as far as I know) but it's been on the Internet for 3 months.  AVP 
released the first ever mention of it by any AV company only today, but I 
know Rod has had it for months, and Eugene Kaspersky is a CARO member.
 KW> rf> Yeah ... I've seen it.  You don't really want me to turn
 KW> rf> this echo into
 KW> rf> an a.c.v clone, do you ?
 KW> LK> SHIT NO!
 KW>
 KW> agreed.... (i'm starting to get a few whiffs of that
 KW> barnyard smell you
 KW> were talking about)
It's all a matter of nose sensitivity.  Everybody will smell it sooner or 
later.  :-)
 KW> i think the wildlist is just being
 KW> misused/misinterpretted...
I have nothing against the Wild List.  It's a good idea, but you're right 
about it being misused.
 KW> it *is*
 KW> significant... a scanner that has a low wildlist detection
 KW> rate is
 KW> worthless regardless of it's overall detection rate, but
 KW> that doesn't
 KW> make a scanner with a high wildlist detection rate a good
 KW> product in and
 KW> of itself...
Right on both counts.
 KW> i think wildlist reporting should be less qualitative so as
 KW> to not
 KW> mistake it's significance as being anything like the
 KW> significance of an
 KW> overall detection rate... something like
 KW> "perfect/high/mediocre/low/none"...
 KW> but since when does any of the powers that be listen to
 KW> what *i*
 KW> think...
While there's a way of misusing the Wild List for financial gain there will 
always be someone who does it.
LuKE
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