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echo: holysmoke
to: Ross Cassell
from: Jeff Binkley
date: 2009-04-26 14:58:00
subject: Lies

Below is one thread of three where he has continued to post lies about 
statements I have made, even after being corrected on more than one 
occasion.  In none of the cases has he been able to produce any post 
which proves his lies are true. 

In this thread, Dan is claiming that I have stated that ID is based upon 
science.  Even after being told repeatedly that I made no such claim, he 
continues with the lie.  I want him to show anywhere that I made such a 
claim or admit he fabricated his statement and desist with the lies.

If you need more evidence then just search the echo for the past week 
with my name and the word lie and you see how many times I have 
attempted to correct his lies.

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Date: 04-26-09 (00:47)              Number: 712090 of 712124 (Refer# 69)
  To: Dan Ceppa
From: JEFF BINKLEY
Subj: Cretinist "science"
Read: NO                            Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo)
Conf: Holy Smoke (69)            Read Type: GENERAL (-)





DC> DC> JB> So you are threatened by it.  I get that.  It's an
DC> DC> JB> alternative  viewpoint.  It also forces people to
DC> DC> JB> acknowledge that science cannot  answer many questions.
DC> DC> That is what you fear.

DC> DC>LOL!  I see that you haven't bothered to provide the scientific
DC> DC>theory  of ID/creationism.

DC> JB> It is irrelevant to the discussion.

DC>The only way you could be more wrong about that is to continue to
DC>believe  the horse shit called "Intelligent design" has anything to
DC>do with science.

You continue with your lies.  I've made no such statement about ID.  I
have stated that it is an alternative viewpoint which brings up
questions that current scientific theory cannot answer.


DC>That you push that abortion as an "alternate theory to Evolution" is
DC>prima facae evidence that you don't know shit about shinola, let
DC>aline  science.

You obviously fear anything which threatens your dogma.


Jeff

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Date: 04-25-09 (13:03)              Number: 712021 of 712124 (Refer# 
712012)
  To: DAN CEPPA
From: JEFF BINKLEY
Subj: CRETINIST "SCIENCE"
Read: NO                            Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo)
Conf: Holy Smoke (69)            Read Type: GENERAL (-)




DC> DC> GD>Provide the scientific theory that qualifies it as anything
DC> DC> GD>other than  religious dogma.
DC>
DC> DC>up nothing.  The "threatening" part is that idiots
consider ID to
DC> DC>be scientific in the first place.

DC> JB> So you are threatened by it.  I get that.  It's an alternative
DC> JB> viewpoint.  It also forces people to acknowledge that science
DC> JB> cannot  answer many questions.  That is what you fear.
DC>
DC>LOL!  I see that you haven't bothered to provide the scientific
DC>theory  of ID/creationism. 

It is irrelevant to the discussion.

Our government run schools teach many things other than science so
whether we believe ID is based upon science or not, should not be a
deciding factor on whether our government run schools teach it or not.


DC>And you want it taught in schools under the science curriculum?  You
DC>better get a move on.  "God dunnit" is not science, no matter how
DC>much you kick and scream.

I have not broached the subject of whether ID is based upon science or
not.  it is irrelevant to the discussion.  You are the one hand waiving
over it.  I have only stated that ID is an alternative option to
evolution.  I have also stated that it brings up many questions that the
current theory of evolution does not answer.


It is obvious that you fear a rational debate and thus want to silence
an opposing viewpoint to your dogma.


Jeff

CMPQwk 1.42-21 9999

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Jeff

CMPQwk 1.42-21 9999 
Stop the Democrat party oil embargo ....

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