TIP: Click on subject to list as thread! ANSI
echo: nthelp
to: Rich
from: Thees Peereboom
date: 2002-11-30 20:24:06
subject: Re: File security dialog - securityissue.bmp (0/5)

From: Thees Peereboom 

Rich,

See attached BMP - sorry for it being Dutch, but the errormsg is as I
translated earlier. Next to the errorbox you see the properties I opened at
the security ('beveiliging') tab. For this case I just opened a shortcut,
but this happens at every file I open the security tab of.

I ran SFC /SCANNOW, it asked for the original W2K CD many times, but ended
without any report or log - is it stored somewhere?

Thanks for taking the time to look into this.

- Thees Peereboom

On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 08:49:39 -0800, "Rich"  wrote:

>   You can't expect different languages to compare.
>
>   I don't know in what file the message to which you referred resides.  If
the message is a simple message box you can copy it by pressing Ctrl+C when
the message box has the focus.  Reply here with the text.  If it is a
dialog you need to make a graphics copy to post here.  Maybe I can identify
the file with that message.
>
>   You can also try SFC /SCANNOW to check if all the protected files match
known versions.
>
>Rich
>
>  "Thees Peereboom"  wrote in message
news:v8ehuucjsav8j3vgmlth3s56a9prc6rs6v{at}4ax.com...
>  Rich,
>
>  I have another machine running W2K, only that's a US version I bought,
>  while on this machine W2K is an OEM Dutch version (came with the
>  Dell). Would it still be possible to compare files?
>
>  What files should I look at?
>
>  TIA,
>
>  - Thees Peereboom
>
>  On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 23:09:16 -0800, "Rich"  wrote:
>
>  >   This sounds like something is corrupted.  Try comparing the files on
this machine with another running the same version of Windows.
>  >
>  >Rich
>  >
>  >  "Thees Peereboom"  wrote in message
news:7skbuu8i15bbj0vd4kg2soi480j9b0ghpo{at}4ax.com...
>  >  Rich,
>  >
>  >  On a completely different note, I've got a securityproblem which I
>  >  seem unable to solve. I've posted about this before, but sofar no
>  >  luck.
>  >
>  >  This machine is part of an NT4 domain, users and groups are maintained
>  >  on that domain. For some time now whenever I try to change the
>  >  securitysettings on this machine (other machines in the domain work
>  >  fine) I get the following error:
>  >
>  >  (leftclick on file, choose properties, go to the securitytab and
>  >  choose add)
>  >
>  >  'Cannot open the dialogue for userselection (null)'
>  >
>  >  which leaves me unable to add or change any rights.
>  >
>  >  I'd really appreciate at least a direction to search, since I have not
>  >  been able even to find this error in the docs.
>  >
>  >  TIA,
>  >
>  >  - Thees Peereboom
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:37:40 -0800, "Rich"  wrote:
>  >
>  >  >   I don't see any backing down.  Microsoft does make choices that
affect backward compatibility but all such choices are scrutinized.  If the
compat problems are due to app bugs work arounds, often specific to one
app, are implemented.  Quite a bit of effort is made to keep existing apps
from third parties working.  Sometimes changes are made in documented or
default behavior, and don't believe that simply changing system defaults
doesn't have compat problems.  These are documented and often configurable
by admins or users depending on the scope of the setting.  I suspect there
are more settings changes that API behavior changes.  John O encountered
one in Windows XP Home Edition.  By default network access is authenticated
as the guest account to limit the ability of someone to attack a system
remotely and do dammage.  It allows a local user to have no password and
not open the system to attack using that user's account.  How did this bite
John?  He disabled the guest
>account.
>  >  >This is a fine example of breaking existing behavior to gain greater
security.
>  >  >
>  >  >Rich
>  >  >
>  >  >  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:3de56764$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>  >  >  "Rich"  wrote in message
news:3de42e03{at}w3.nls.net...
>  >  >   >>  It's more complicated.<<
>  >  >
>  >  >  I don't doubt it, I just find it funny that right after
Craig Mundie
made
>  >  >  his "break the apps for security" statements
along comes a security
issue
>  >  >  and he's forced to back down from the hardline stance.
>  >  >
>  >  >  FWIW, I don't think it's microsoft's place to force
patches on people
as Mr
>  >  >  Mundie seems to think, there are other much better ways
for MS to make
NT a
>  >  >  whole lot more secure. Really simple things like random directory
names
>  >  >  (instead of \winnt use \winnt+installdate) and stuff that
won't break
apps
>  >  >  but will break 90% of the hacks.
>  >  >
>  >  >  Look at how many hacks have been foiled by the IE temp
files directory
>  >  >  names. Such a simple thing to do and it blocked countless exploits
that
>  >  >  never became a reality because the files couldn't be
located easily.
>  >  >
>  >  >  Geo.

--- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-4
* Origin: Barktopia BBS Site http://HarborWebs.com:8081 (1:379/1.45)
SEEN-BY: 3/2 10 106/1 120/544 123/500 379/1 633/260 267 270 285 774/0 605
SEEN-BY: 2432/200
@PATH: 379/1 106/1 123/500 774/605 633/260 285

SOURCE: echomail via fidonet.ozzmosis.com

Email questions or comments to sysop@ipingthereforeiam.com
All parts of this website painstakingly hand-crafted in the U.S.A.!
IPTIA BBS/MUD/Terminal/Game Server List, © 2025 IPTIA Consulting™.