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echo: binkd
to: MARK LEWIS
from: MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST
date: 2015-03-02 01:14:00
subject: File requesting with bink

Hello mark,

On Sunday March 01 2015 12:04, you wrote to me:


 MvdV>> Easy for mailers software that supports that option. Not all
 MvdV>> do. InterMail doesn't. Irex doesn't.

 ml> are you absolutely sure about that?

It turns out I was wrong.

 ml> wasn't intermail branched off of the frontdoor code? frontdoor had
 ml> that option way back in like 2.02...

Yes, InterMail is a fork of FrontDoor.

It took me a while to find it, but InterMail does indeed have the option to not
pick up file requests. It is not where one would expect to find it; in the file
request section. One can configure a lot of things there, like who may request,
max size of the request, Limited time slots, password protection on directories
or individual files and more. But not pick up file requests.

It is hidden in the event manager. One can configure it per event. One can also
refuse picking up any mail there btw.

In all the years that I have used InereMail, I never knew about this option.
Goe to show how badly I needed it. It was just "not done" here.

 ml> irex was also modeled closely after frontdoor... the author was a FD
 ml> Beta team member for a while... it would surprise me if he didn't
 ml> include that option as well... irex can also handle freqs, right??

Yes, Irex can handle freqs. But if it has an option to deny picking up file
requests, I have not found it.

 MvdV>> So even trying it was considered annoying behaviour.

 ml> then someone isn't using all available resources... turn off the
 ml> ability to pick up waiting freqs and there is no problem...

What if the option is not available in the softwre that one uses?

 ml>  the solution is available... refusing to use it is also annoying
 ml> behaviour...

Forcing someone to install another mailer is also annoying.

Putting file requests on hold was just "not done" here.

 MvdV>> Now you are doing it again: Creating an outlandish scenario by

 ml> until you walk in my shoes and deal with the support scenarios that i
 ml> deal with, you are clueless and ignorant... yet you spout off as if
 ml> you do know everything about anything...

Thank you. I love you too.

 MvdV>> stacking exception upun excepotion until the situation becomes
 MvdV>> so exceptional that the original action makes no sens any more.

 ml> i have not stacked any exceptions... i stated plainly that some ISPd
 ml> charge their customers by the customers' requests... if the customer
 ml> uses ftp and pulls down a 2gig file, the request and response are
 ml> noted together and the customer has that 2gig deducted from their
 ml> allocation...

Exactly what I said: on a metered account the user is charged for the number of
bytes received. How does that not apply to a response on a picked up file
request?


Cheers, Michiel

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