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Subject: Re: [OT] Awesome and funny Tesla car review (link)

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> > > > > > > > anim8rFSK  wrote:
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> > > > > > > > >  Your Name
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, Jan Alter
> > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Delightful.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >     No more oil changes.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I don't know about that
review link, but electric cars
> still 
> > > > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > oil to lubricate the
various moving parts (wheel bearings,
> > > etc.) 
> > > > > > > > > > as well as in the
production of much of the world's
> > > electricity. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Most of it's sealed, but
you've got battery pack coolant,
> brake
> > > > > > > > > fluid, 
> > > > > > > > > gearbox oil, windshield wiper
fluid, whatever it uses for 
> > > > > > > > > 'freon' 
> > > > > > > > > ... 
> > > > > > > > > you have to have $600 a year
in service from Tesla where
> > > > > > > > > presumably 
> > > > > > > > > they'll do all that; of
course, there's not a Tesla dealer 
> > > > > > > > > within 
> > > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > car's driving range of me, so
that would be a problem.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anyone who believes
electric cars are a panacea to the "oil 
> > > > > > > > > > crisis" 
> > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > the "green
revolution" is simply a blinkered moron.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, they've bought into
'tailpipe emissions' and don't 
> > > > > > > > > realize 
> > > > > > > > > that 
> > > > > > > > > as 
> > > > > > > > > much or more pollution is
being generated, just upstream.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Also "downstream" in
trying to get rid of all those extra toxic
> > > > > > > > batteries. Plus, since the pile of
batteries inside them will
> > > > > > > > expensively need to be replaced
fairly often, most people will
> > > > > > > > simply
> > > > > > > > upgrade to a newer car (one of the
real reasons behind the
> push), 
> > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > means then also means extra
material to be disposed of.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Here in New Zealand, they've just
started new electric trains in
> > > > > > > > Auckland City (some parts, since
not all the lines are 
> > > > > > > > electrified 
> > > > > > > > yet)
> > > > > > > > and are boasting about how great
they are ... except they have
> to 
> > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > the old diesel trains around
beacuse when the electricty goes 
> > > > > > > > down 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > only way to then move the stupid
new trains is by towing them 
> > > > > > > > with a
> > > > > > > > real train. :-\
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > LOL
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It would be funny if it wasn't tax-payer
money being wasted on
> > > > > > buying
> > > > > > something like 38 new trains to run on a
railway system that only
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > two lines and a dead-end city centre station
with only four 
> > > > > > platforms.
> > > > > > Not to mention that they couldn't run the
system they had properly. 
> > > > > > :-\
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The morons in charge now want to waste piles
more money digging an
> > > > > > underground "City Loop" line
(including buying and compensating
> > > > > > affected building owners) that comes out of
the dead-end station and
> > > > > > goes up under the main city centre street to
join in to the existing
> > > > > > line back at the top ... this is after having
had a free bus service
> > > > > > running up and down the main street that was
under-used.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yeah.  And they try desperately to force you to
take the bus to jury 
> > > > > duty, 
> > > > 
> > > > Ahh, Jury Duty. I did that once and it was a complete
waste of a week.
> > > > The next time I got my boss to write a letter saying I was
> > > > indispensable and couldn't go, the next two times I was
self-employed
> > > > so couldn't go again.
> > > 
> > > They don't accept those excuses any more here.  The only job
that counts 
> > > as 'indispensable' is - I swear - court clerk.
> > 
> > Being self-employed means you are the only one who can do the work, so
> > you are literally indispensible.  :-) If they force you to do Jury
> > Service, then it could well destroy your business.
> 
> Yes.  I've had that discussion with them on many occasions.  Basically 
> they blow a raspberry at you.

In America you could always just sue them for destroying your business
by forcing you to go to silly Jury Duty ... you could get millions in
lost potential earnings alone.  :-)



> > Personally I think the jury system is idiotically stupid and plain
> > wrong. Judges are trained and paid excessive amounts to be able to pass
> > judgement (hence their job title), yet they farm it off to untrained
> > members of the public who scum lawyers pick-and-choose to be on the
> > jury.   :-\
> 
> Yep.  Well, except for the "judges are trained" part.

They are trained ... its just that the Western judges are mostly a load
of weak-kneed fools or have their hands tied by Political Correctness
stupidity ... either way they are pathetically hopeless at giving out
proper sentencing.   :-(
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