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to: JEAN HALVERSON
from: ZORCH FREZBERG
date: 1997-12-27 21:55:00
subject: Re: Star Trek Facts

In a msg on , Jean Halverson of 1:130/222
writes to Zorch Frezberg:
 JH>  ...as that souless minion of orthodoxy, Zorch, was saying...
Ha!  Never!
 PA>>  ...and, of course, _Star Trek_ showed the first kiss on 
 PA>> American TV between a white man and a black woman.
 ZF>> Nope.  Sorry.  The first interracial kiss actually occurred in 1954, on 
 ZF>> an American sit-com carried live on network television, and was seen
 ZF>> by nearly 12 million people across the US. And now, the title escapes 
 ZF>> me, but it was about a black maid working in a white home...title was 
 ZF>> the name of the lead character..."Marigold"? 
 JH>  Okay, now in a television special about ST, Shatner and Nichols 
 JH> both  made  mention of their onscreen interracial kiss being
 JH>  ground-breaking. _I_  thought that was on account of the 
 JH> kiss being the first passionate  interracial one on TV.
At the time it was done, it was widely accepted and believed to be the 
case...the new information is about 3-4 years old.
However, the information came forward from a few students doing research at 
the UCLA Film School, going through TV archives.  The story I've heard was 
that it was a matter of researching how minorities were portrayed in TV 
shows, and discovering that not all Negroes of the era were portrayed "a la 
AMOS 'N ANDY"...they found the all kinescopes of the show, the only existing 
copies, and one of them portrayed the interracial kiss.  The clips I saw of 
the show did not include the scene, but the news report made mention of it.  
Later, it was in a 'retrospective' of TV history...another mention, but no 
clip of the scene itself.
Whether it is 'convenient disremember' or simply ignorance of the 
information, I don't know...
 LM>>> The first U.S. Space Shuttle, the "Enterprise," was given 
 LM>>> its name after NASA received 400,000 requests from Star 
 LM>>> Trek fans.
 PA>>    ...and in a neat bit of retcon, the producers of _Star 
 PA>> Trek_ have since managed to imply that the starship was 
 PA>> named in memory of the space shuttle. 
 PA>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 JH>  When was that?? I thought that the naming of starships continued 
 JH> the naval  tradition of upgrading the vessels and recycling 
 JH> the names. In TVH the  naval ship that Chekov and Uhura were 
 JH> on was the U.S.S. Enterprise.
Far as I know, that's the case...one of the "Lost Years" books may have 
mentioned that 'factoid', but I'm not aware of it being the case.
 ZF>> -zf-  Pord.
 JH>        ^^^^
 JH>  Code?? To whom? Are you a participant in some intergalactic 
 JH> conspiracy  to  infuse the languages of Earth with 
 JH> nonsensical gibberish? Which then will  leave us confused and 
 JH> easy prey for some intergalactic conqueror? Are you in  
 JH> league with a Borg-like species or the Borg itself?
Ed Lee.  Get...message...to Ed...Lee................
-zf-  Veet.
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