On Sat 21-Jun-1997 10:01a, Martin Niemeyer wrote:
MN> Once again, we agree!
Well don't let it happen again!
MN> I agree here too. Although, not on the net at this time, I have had
MN> gated access to some of the newsgroups and I have seen tons of bs.
hehehe I knew we could stay in total agreement about everything!
I am sure you are able to extract information you need, and I am sure that 
after a while the people who are causing problems can be discouraged, but it 
does not stop the mass postings.  I just don't have the time to add new crap 
to my filters everyday...  I am *GLAD* that you find the newsgroups to be of 
use.  Maybe you can find information on the 'net and come post it here for 
us! hehehe
Oh, one more thing...  When the outernets are gone, or on their way out (more 
so than now), this will open up the path to surcharges for newsgroups.  Sure, 
it sounds impossible, now...  But right now if there was even a hint of 
charging $$ made, a million people would be up in arms and you would hear, 
"well, why should we pay anything when we can get better quality 'newsgroups' 
for FREE in the outernets"...  When they are gone, what will hold them back?
MN> I think Fido will get smaller, but that's okay. The people remaining
MN> will most likely be quality people that are here because they WANT
MN> to be here, just as some of the bbs's stay up because of a core of
MN> users.
True...  I am all for helping some people complete their move to the 
internet, and then deleting their offline fido mailers. hehehe  Leaving only 
the quality people...
MN> I'm sure you will be able to find him. It's hard to hide on the
MN> internet, and Bill won't be hiding.
hehe  I did find him, at least his web and ftp sites, but I must have added 
bcheek to a filter or something, because of all the radio related newsgroups, 
I just don't get the number of quality posts I have gotten from fido.  I 
haven't even SEEN a posting from Bill... What is the newsgroup/s he hangs in?
MN>  JH> The outernet's will be the offroad trails of the information
MN>  JH> highway...
MN> Hey! You and my new bossnode are in complete agreement. His mailer
MN> goes by the name of TIDR, which stands for:
MN> The Information Dirt Road, a side street off the information
MN> highway.
Well, you can't bring no tcp/ip stack down here, you'll need a tow truck.
Just not enough ground clearance... hehehe
Just a side note...  I will have my BBS available via the internet shortly, 
and I already pull in several newsgroups to it (via FTN converted echos), but 
it will be telnetable very soon, and within a month I should have a permenant 
presence...  But, the main reason I am doing this is to move FTN network 
(Fidonet, C-Link!, and a few others) traffic cheaper than now.  Although I am 
not complaining too much about the cost of moving the large quantity of 
echomail that I pay now, it is very reasonable.  But there isn't anything 
wrong with make it even MORE reasonable! hehehe
DR. John M. Hoyt / AKA Warren Peace  -  C-Link! International Coordinator
                                     -  Fido Net 391 NC/EC
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